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Divination  1 star
Posts: 91
Registered: 2002-5-23 14:31:58
"LOL! 3000 years of legal history???!!! First our legal customs dont go back more than 800 years with the signing of the Magna Carta. Even then, the relevant history is about 250 years old.


Secondly, legal precedent holds no sway in this game since this is their property, and they can do whatever they want."


Wrong and wrong ... both of your statements are wrong.


1) As I'm sure most people who took Greek and Roman history realize, the Magna carta wasn't the beginning of the laws we are used to today. The Greeks and Romans influenced a great deal of what our laws and our political system are today. Democracy took hold in Athens. The Romans took a good deal of the Greek's knowledge and carried it over into their own systems. The Romans took England and most of Europe, which influenced the laws in Europe for centuries and the democracy founded in Athens found it's way into most societies today. The Magna Carta was a document which put down many of these ideas.


2) Mythic cannot discriminate based on race, religion, sex or national status, so therefore, they cannot do whatever they want as you stated falsely.


This is an example of what Mythic does albiet unintentionally:


Linguistic discrimination


Diversity of language is protected and respected by most nations who value cultural diversity. However, people are sometimes subjected to different treatment because their preferred language is associated with a particular group, class or category. Commonly, the preferred language is just another attribute of separate ethnic groups. Discrimination exists if there is prejudicial treatment against a person or a group of people who speak a particular language or dialect. Language discrimination is suggested to be labeled linguicism or logocism. Anti-discriminatory and inclusive efforts to accommodate persons who speak different languages or cannot have fluency in the country's predominant or "official" language, is bilingualism such as official documents in two languages, and multiculturalism in more than two languages.

 

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ArkadyTepes  3 stars
Posts: 510
Registered: 2004-1-10 11:08:57
Divination posted:

2) Mythic cannot discriminate based on race, religion, sex or national status, so therefore, they cannot do whatever they want as you stated falsely.



actualy, mythic can discriminate based on race, religion, sex and or national status....

because they have the right to refuse service to who ever they want, for what ever reason they want.

they can ban you for no reason at all..

they can just terminate your account and go oh, sorry... have a nice day, thank you for playing dark age of camelot.

it even says so in the EULA

EULA posted:

D. Rights to Access System and Game Content to Play Game; No Interception or Reverse Engineering; Violation of EUALA a Material Breach

This EUALA grants you the non-exclusive, revocable rights to access and use the System


(notice REVOCABLE RIGHTS!)

EULA posted:

TO IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT NOTICE DISCONTINUE ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM THROUGH YOUR ACCOUNT



they dont even have to tell you they did it, or tell you why...

they can just terminate your account and never speak to you again...

 

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angryranger  2 stars
Posts: 472
Registered: 2003-3-29 19:17:07
Divination posted:

"LOL! 3000 years of legal history???!!! First our legal customs dont go back more than 800 years with the signing of the Magna Carta. Even then, the relevant history is about 250 years old.


Secondly, legal precedent holds no sway in this game since this is their property, and they can do whatever they want."


Wrong and wrong ... both of your statements are wrong.


1) As I'm sure most people who took Greek and Roman history realize, the Magna carta wasn't the beginning of the laws we are used to today. The Greeks and Romans influenced a great deal of what our laws and our political system are today. Democracy took hold in Athens. The Romans took a good deal of the Greek's knowledge and carried it over into their own systems. The Romans took England and most of Europe, which influenced the laws in Europe for centuries and the democracy founded in Athens found it's way into most societies today. The Magna Carta was a document which put down many of these ideas.


2) Mythic cannot discriminate based on race, religion, sex or national status, so therefore, they cannot do whatever they want as you stated falsely.


This is an example of what Mythic does albiet unintentionally:


Linguistic discrimination


Diversity of language is protected and respected by most nations who value cultural diversity. However, people are sometimes subjected to different treatment because their preferred language is associated with a particular group, class or category. Commonly, the preferred language is just another attribute of separate ethnic groups. Discrimination exists if there is prejudicial treatment against a person or a group of people who speak a particular language or dialect. Language discrimination is suggested to be labeled linguicism or logocism. Anti-discriminatory and inclusive efforts to accommodate persons who speak different languages or cannot have fluency in the country's predominant or "official" language, is bilingualism such as official documents in two languages, and multiculturalism in more than two languages.



Umm, no. English law (and American law) derived from Germanic laws, not Roman laws. England (Britannnia) wasn't that Romanized. French, Spanish and Italian laws derived from Roman law. So your understanding of history is flawed. Greek democracy bears little resemblance to modern democracy.


They aren't discriminating. They have the sole right to determine the rules of their game. They aren't discriminating against language, they are discriminating against vulgarity. If you think vulgarity constitutes it's own language, you are really dumber than I thought. You violated them. You pay.
Divination  1 star
Posts: 91
Registered: 2002-5-23 14:31:58
I like when people talk about things when they have no clue what they are saying. I work in a professional field where I have to know what I'm doing and saying to people. I can not make up things like the previous two posters who are clueless to their own civil rights. The reason they say Dr. Martin Luther King was such a great man is he brought about a change of your civil rights that no one can take away from you. You have lost whatever slight bit of credibility you have left, if you had any left at all.


These are the two responses I was given:


"actualy, mythic can discriminate based on race, religion, sex and or national status....


because they have the right to refuse service to who ever they want, for what ever reason they want.


they can ban you for no reason at all..


they can just terminate your account and go oh, sorry... have a nice day, thank you for playing dark age of camelot.


it even says so in the EULA"


To this I say, the EULA does not trump federal law, state law or any local laws. If Mythic said you would have to be white to play the game, they would be violating your civil rights (read below).


The following was another post about history:


"Umm, no. English law (and American law) derived from Germanic laws, not Roman laws. England (Britannnia) wasn't that Romanized. French, Spanish and Italian laws derived from Roman law. So your understanding of history is flawed. Greek democracy bears little resemblance to modern democracy."


If you didn't have Greek and Roman history, you should. You will realize a great deal about our political system is from Romans. If Britian wasn't so influenced by Romans why do they have a House of Commons(Plebs) and house of Lords(Senators). If you don't realize most of what the world does today was begun in Greece (mostly Athens and Sparta) and Rome, then I cannot help you. Philosophy was started in Greece too, as was democracy and free thinking. We have a house of representatives (plebs) and the Senate, lol. We still call it the Senate, and wait, I think you are missing the link here. The United States broke free from what nation? Oh yeah, that would be Britian. So we have a Senate, we broke away from Britian and the Romans had a Senate, LOL.


"They aren't discriminating. They have the sole right to determine the rules of their game. They aren't discriminating against language, they are discriminating against vulgarity. If you think vulgarity constitutes it's own language, you are really dumber than I thought. You violated them. You pay."


They do not have the sole right to determine the rules of their game that break federal, state or local laws. I'm sorry, but read below and learn something you should have already known.


Read this if your attention span allows it:


http://www.justice.gov/crt/housing/title2.php


42 U.S.C. ยง2000a


(a)All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.


Read it again


To the above poster who claimed a business can make up the rules, you are wrong. Face it. The only exception to this rule is a private club, which can discriminate as long as it is not open to the general public. This game is open to the general public.


If you know the law, you know federal law trumps all law. For example, you know when you see that line on a restaurant menu that says, "We have the right to not serve anyone for any reason," is illegal. You don't have to be a legal expert to know this because if you read the above section, you know a restaurant's rules will not trump federal law.


I get tired of explaining common sense things to people like this. I really do. I can't believe people don't even know their own civil rights, and are happy to come on a public chat board and let the world know they are clueless too.


Stick to making up stories that can't be discredited so easily.

 

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therealchiricahua
Posts: 21
Registered: 2009-9-11 08:26:22
The original post is still whining and trying to justify his BS?

This has to be one of the most epic whines ever. What a cry baby.
Groooovechampion  1 star
Posts: 229
Registered: 2003-6-30 16:36:01
while I understand your point, OP, you are in the wrong, m8. It takes little to get in the spotlight for "verbally harrassing other players".

Yes, you have to be careful, even if you had enough reasons to insult. Trust me, I hate keeping my mouth shut when cussing and blaring insults is way appropriate at that moment.

 

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ArkadyTepes  3 stars
Posts: 510
Registered: 2004-1-10 11:08:57
nm not worth it.

 

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angryranger  2 stars
Posts: 472
Registered: 2003-3-29 19:17:07
dude. You are clueless about history. I've easily read over 100 books and 50 treatises on roman and greek history and another 200 books on middle ages to renaissance history. Go study English Legal and Political history then get back to me. YOu don't know what you are prattling on about. The Ancient Greeks had no concept of limited power, no concept of property rights, no concept of individual rights, no idea about separation of Church and State, no Habeus Corpus, no trial by jury, no Bill of RIghts or anything approximating it, no concept of separation of powers, only allowed land owners the vote, allowed tyrants to rule. Need I go on, Dr. History? Read about the Peloponnesian Wars to get a sense of how Democratic ancient Greece was under Pericles just for starters. Thucydides wrote the history if you want to look it up.


LOL the wheel was invented in the MIddle East. Are you going to tell me that our knowledge of transportation come from Sumerian traditions? Wow. Get some education.
andynNIN  1 star
Posts: 62
Registered: 2004-9-27 21:50:26
Vladasa posted:

I see A LOT of AMERICAN based players being idiots in region; talking too much, trying to instigate online arguments, cussing, telling me who's "bad" and how big their epeen is...



Fixed...


Shadora, think its time to stick to big britney spears bald headed hellos to the realm.

 

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