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Walker_ID  Posts: 673
Registered: 2002-5-29 10:20:09
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1/1/00 12:00am
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1.108 Comes to Pendragon - 1/12/2011 |
Docmandu posted:
Augmented Constitution: Increases Constitution by the listed amount per level:
Augmented Dexterity: Increases Constitution by the listed amount per level:
Augmented Quickness: Increases Constitution by the listed amount per level:
Stuff is going to be a pain in the ass to kill with that much +CON available 
it's the exact same amount of con that is available now
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Robocodd Posts: 44
Registered: 2010-5-18 13:07:39
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yay for more BG quests. Please Please get Wilton some too. It is by far the worst BG ever
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Date Posted:
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Tarmaniel posted:
SorfEU posted:
I think infils got hurt a bit, I mean SB's is nice 25% on dmg ! NS's is good for 25%+25% less dmg...infil's get 10%. And Archers gets a small SoS. Everyone has remedy to so Viper3 maybe pointless with that and purge.
It's not 10%. Lowering 50% evade to 40% is a 20% damage increase, and if you're fighting a sword/board class it's an absolutely immense damage increase. Against an Evade I class with capped parry and block that RR5 increases your DPS by 60%.
Also, anyone notice that Vehement Renewal now says "including the user"? High RR Paladins can full-heal themselves three times now.
So wrong.
Fighting a high RR sword and board opponent you are swinging into 80% defense. Thats 2/10 swings that land.
Now even in the best case scenario (s/s player is only overcapped enough to keep their high def rates after your Rogue WS is factored in) you have 40% parry and 50% block. I'm sorry but thats still 70% defense you are swinging into. You gain 1/10 swings......
Also thats only if the way the new inf RR5 works. What if it works like bypasses 10% of 60%? That would only net you a 6% def penetration and a 5% penetration on parry. Then you 45% and 55%....and the s/s user is now at 75% total defense.
Granted other factors are not being accounted for, but a heavy tank vs an assassin can spec their RA's and what not to not even FEEL the WS reduction from the rogue WS table. Meaning they are so over capped they stay at 60% block rate.
So w/ that being the case give me the NS RR5 and let me do what I do now. Least I know my defense rates will be 25% miss and 50% evade. That gives me a 62.5% overall defense....a 12.5% increase along w/ a 25% decrease to their damage.
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Meddyck24  Posts: 223
Registered: 2010-11-5 10:58:36
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I really like the extra levels for RAs. I wish they had done that years ago.
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Cydoc  Title: Final Fantasy Vault SM
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Registered: 2008-9-23 19:33:50
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Meddyck24 posted:
I really like the extra levels for RAs. I wish they had done that years ago.
Agreed. I am especially a big fan of the active RAs and how they now progress using this system; especially Purge. I tend to be a BG humper so this makes things really nice.
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Tarmaniel Posts: 36
Registered: 2010-4-29 16:59:53
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Notsoserious posted:
So wrong.
Fighting a high RR sword and board opponent you are swinging into 80% defense. Thats 2/10 swings that land.
Now even in the best case scenario (s/s player is only overcapped enough to keep their high def rates after your Rogue WS is factored in) you have 40% parry and 50% block. I'm sorry but thats still 70% defense you are swinging into. You gain 1/10 swings......
I hate to break this to you, but reducing your opponent from 80% defense to 70% defense is a 50% damage increase. Now you also have to factor in that you are also removing evade (pretty much every Mid and Hib class with S/S has Evade I or Evade III) and it's closer to 60%.
Notsoserious posted:
Granted other factors are not being accounted for, but a heavy tank vs an assassin can spec their RA's and what not to not even FEEL the WS reduction from the rogue WS table. Meaning they are so over capped they stay at 60% block rate.
So w/ that being the case give me the NS RR5 and let me do what I do now. Least I know my defense rates will be 25% miss and 50% evade. That gives me a 62.5% overall defense....a 12.5% increase along w/ a 25% decrease to their damage.
Even with 42+21 shield and +101 DEX you still need MoB IV to get block to 64-65%. The only way anyone is going to overcap enough to ignore this RA is if they spend 48 RSP on MoB V, and nobody does that.
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Docmandu Posts: 240
Registered: 2005-7-12 00:54:17
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Walker_ID posted:
Docmandu posted:
Augmented Constitution: Increases Constitution by the listed amount per level:
Augmented Dexterity: Increases Constitution by the listed amount per level:
Augmented Quickness: Increases Constitution by the listed amount per level:
Stuff is going to be a pain in the ass to kill with that much +CON available
it's the exact same amount of con that is available now
Read more closely ... somebody was in a rush when making the patch notes..
Anyway.. hate the stealther changes.. yet another escape tool for archers.. and the NS one would have been fine if it was either 25% dmg reduction OR 25% miss chance... but both?! So 1/4 of your hits are 100% reduced, 3/4's 25% reduced..
ohwell.. guess I'll just be glad with the PBAOE nearsight on a merc, rofl.
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abmfett Posts: 10
Registered: 2002-12-15 22:24:04
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Wow. I was expecting to see a lot to complain about. but really this looks pretty good.
The new assassin rr5s are maybe the only thing that might be needing some rebalancing once put into effect, but even they don't look that far out of control when you realize that almost everyone has a new and improved rr5.
the changes in the 5/10/15 pt RAs are going to be very nice. there are now a lot of viable RA spcs where previously 15 or 30 pts had to be spent, but now someone can get by perfectly fine with only 10 or 22. those extra 5 or 8 pts freed up could really add up fast.
all in all this might be the best skills/ras revamp in ages.
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Date Posted:
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I was thinking about complaining that the shammy wasn't getting any RR5 love (does that regen actually do anything?) but after seeing the changes to Vehement Renewal, nevermind.
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Docmandu Posts: 240
Registered: 2005-7-12 00:54:17
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Hunter PBAOE + 60% 15s unbreakable speed.. in other words .. yet another charge class for mids.. how many does that make now.. oh right.. 4 Midgard, 2 Hibernia, 1 Albion. (Recast of 10mins on the charge sucks tho  ) |
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