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PasswordLLOTH  Title: i can haz title
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Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
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according to you blue pets are dealt with way too easily, just having the pet around for interrupts is useful even if its grey it still needs to be dealt with. what's the worst that can happen? pet dies or gets cc'd? resummon it. and chanter pets are the only one where the dot works that way since they nerfed necros. only an idiot would assume i suggest chanters have the utility of an eld or a mentalist. thankfully not all classes in daoc are exact replicas of each other. that leads me to the tidbit of information i revealed earlier to you guys: the chanter/eld/warden rape defense.
we can go on and on for days but it's pretty clear to me you are trying your best at posturing and falling flat on your face against someone with a greater understanding of this game than you. i enjoy the mild debate though so if you really wish to continue then do so and i'll follow your lead oh wise one~
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GrendelRex  Posts: 156
Registered: 2004-2-29 09:00:36
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PasswordLLOTH posted:
according to you blue pets are dealt with way too easily, just having the pet around for interrupts is useful even if its grey it still needs to be dealt with. what's the worst that can happen? pet dies or gets cc'd? resummon it. and chanter pets are the only one where the dot works that way since they nerfed necros. only an idiot would assume i suggest chanters have the utility of an eld or a mentalist. thankfully not all classes in daoc are exact replicas of each other. that leads me to the tidbit of information i revealed earlier to you guys: the chanter/eld/warden rape defense.
we can go on and on for days but it's pretty clear to me you are trying your best at posturing and falling flat on your face against someone with a greater understanding of this game than you. i enjoy the mild debate though so if you really wish to continue then do so and i'll follow your lead oh wise one~
You're so dense you don't even know what you're arguing about. I never said druid pets were completely useless, or Enchanter pets, but THEY ARE LACKING IN THE TYPICAL HIB GROUP COMPARED TO ALB OR MID. Get it? Would you rather face a Hib group with three easily CC'd/killed pets or a Mid group with a hard hitting, charging, slamming, self healing or multiple assisting pets or even worse an Alb group with 15 possibly fast moving, nuking or chain stunning pets that can attack every member of the group, alost always two charmed pets, one possibly red and often another chain stunning pet?
All I know is as a Hib I'm contantly thinking of pets and how to deal with them facing Albs or Mids(1on1 SM's >>>> Enchanters too) compared facing Hibs as a Mid.
BTW, good for you for being so godly in a video game.
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Vyxar  Title: Arbiter Elegantiarum
Posts: 329
Registered: 2002-3-13 04:54:08
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PasswordLLOTH posted:
according to you blue pets are dealt with way too easily, just having the pet around for interrupts is useful even if its grey it still needs to be dealt with. what's the worst that can happen? pet dies or gets cc'd? resummon it. and chanter pets are the only one where the dot works that way since they nerfed necros. only an idiot would assume i suggest chanters have the utility of an eld or a mentalist. thankfully not all classes in daoc are exact replicas of each other. that leads me to the tidbit of information i revealed earlier to you guys: the chanter/eld/warden rape defense.
we can go on and on for days but it's pretty clear to me you are trying your best at posturing and falling flat on your face against someone with a greater understanding of this game than you. i enjoy the mild debate though so if you really wish to continue then do so and i'll follow your lead oh wise one~
exactly.. oh wait that's not what you meant.. well good try! 
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PasswordLLOTH Title: i can haz title
Posts: 517
Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
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Date Posted:
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GrendelRex posted:
You're so dense you don't even know what you're arguing about. I never said druid pets were completely useless, or Enchanter pets, but THEY ARE LACKING IN THE TYPICAL HIB GROUP COMPARED TO ALB OR MID. Get it? Would you rather face a Hib group with three easily CC'd/killed pets or a Mid group with a hard hitting, charging, slamming, self healing or multiple assisting pets or even worse an Alb group with 15 possibly fast moving, nuking or chain stunning pets that can attack every member of the group, alost always two charmed pets, one possibly red and often another chain stunning pet?
All I know is as a Hib I'm contantly thinking of pets and how to deal with them facing Albs or Mids(1on1 SM's >>>> Enchanters too) compared facing Hibs as a Mid.
BTW, good for you for being so godly in a video game.
one of the things that makes daoc such a great game is that everything has a counter. learn the counters to the things you complain about and you will become a greater player from that learning. here i'll help you out:
bad kid posted:
Mid group with a hard hitting, charging, slamming, self healing or multiple assisting pets
stun nuke the commander pet, or kite out duration of charge and then ae mez them. dont worry about the meager damage the pets put out, your healer can easily outheal it.
bad kid posted:
even worse an Alb group with 15 possibly fast moving, nuking or chain stunning pets that can attack every member of the group
dont let the theurgist freecast. when im on my vamp and we find an alb group i go straight for the theurgist /afk clawspam ftw
bad kid posted:
alost always two charmed pets, one possibly red and often another chain stunning pet?
mez the minstrel, stun nuke the pet down. if not minstrel pet, root and forget about it. or kill the minstrel.
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
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bad kid posted:
even worse an Alb group with 15 possibly fast moving, nuking or chain stunning pets that can attack every member of the group
dont let the theurgist freecast. when im on my vamp and we find an alb group i go straight for the theurgist /afk clawspam ftw
This is a hard one. They can QC root or mez and almost always seem to get LOS to get it off. Or you are CC by any number of other albs. Then if they get their pets going, game over.
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration |
Marhai posted:
Jocke-Percival posted:
Baseline Stun.
Lightspec.
Red NS.
AE mez.
High nuke.
AE Dex/Qui debuff.
Subspec Mana
AE disease.
AE Str/Con debuff.
They are THE best, only thing that not make them ZOOMGOP is that they lack Root.
Eld RR5 is Average. Not to bad, not to good.
(Yes i value utility over dps on a caster)
(I'm not a fan of pyramid quoting obv).
I'll first point out that I do not think the eld needs buffing.
Baseline stun is ok. TBH in 8v8 I prefer root but it has it's places (keep defence is a winner for stun).
The AE mez is shite. When I barded I regularly kick light elds for beating my bard to the mezz. They were bound to (higher dex) and yet it gives every man and his dog mezz immunity (or at least used to) as it lasted for no time at all in comparison to a bard mezz.
The 'high' nuke is no higher than what a high body sorc (with cabbie synergy ), air theurg (I wouldn't group one but some people do) - less than a dark runie (though if I was a mid I'd probably not go 47 rc for debuff synergy with a sm) and is no where near the dps value of a wizzie (who can debuff their own dmg to boot).
Even a mind sorc will have a decent enough AoE dex/quick debuff and a good str/con debuff - a body sorc obviously get's that swapped around (hazy on mids as I only fight them...)
AE diseae (even subspec'd is a plus) but I'm still not seeing where this almighty caster is coming from. They're a solid caster (hibs only one) that is on a par with the other realms solid casters (sm/rm + cabbie/sorc). What they lack is not an eld lacking - they lack synergy with the chanter as either the chanter needs to double debuff or the eld has to use it's baseline nuke. You can argue that a tri-spec or spirit spec cabbie and a mind spec'd sorc are both using their baseline damage but then neither is spec'd for damage while a mana chanter + light eld means one is spec'd for debuff + baseline (chanter) and the eld is spec'd for dmg (though it's cold).
1. Baseline stun i just mentioned becuse others would cry if i did not. And as i have said before, yes Stun is only good in sieges other than that Root is superior.
2. THe mez is good for interrupting more than 1 target if they are clumped up and is a good ghetto CC when needed.
3. It is high for hibernia but is still 10 lower than RM and Wiz nukes.
4. Eld is a utility house. They get everything needed in their "primary" spec and when subspecing getting what they are missing. More or less. Thats not the case of other classes like Sorc or Cab.
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DarkPCK Title: Got to go house is on fire.
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Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
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Two people that 8v8 have posted in this thread, yet many posters are inexplicably commenting on its behalf. Just sayin'.
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PasswordLLOTH Title: i can haz title
Posts: 517
Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
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Date Posted:
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Silverbolt999 posted:
This is a hard one. They can QC root or mez and almost always seem to get LOS to get it off. Or you are CC by any number of other albs. Then if they get their pets going, game over.
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PasswordLLOTH Title: i can haz title
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Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
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DarkPCK posted:
Two people that 8v8 have posted in this thread, yet many posters are inexplicably commenting on its behalf. Just sayin'.
me and oby?
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
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Jocke-Percival posted:
Thak0r posted:
Jocke-Percival posted:
They are, look at my other post. But i am honored to talk to a monkey like you who compare 1 caster with 2 others to prove that they are not as good as the other 2 combined...
Actually the numbers in that thread is wrong and tested in a shitty way "and i added my 1 cast and multiplied it with 1000 to get a fair number" 
Learn to play and learn your damn class, jesus, the RP bonuses are WAY to high if ppl like you get 11L4.
well, my eld was rr11 before toa came out, but that doesn't matter at all. you don't know shit about daoc and obv. you are too stupid to even learn shit about daoc. you certainly were one of the zounds of clueless noname zergtards when you played this game. :-------------P
Great replie. Totaly avoided everything i said exept the RR thing. Congrats to you sir.
Just for the sake of pointing it out, since no one else has yet.
RR10 was the cap before TOA came out.
Nice try 
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