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Silverbolt999  1 star
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Hibs need another class that can mez on par with bards. Eld is the only other Hib class that has aoe mez. Can we increase the duration of mez x2 for eld. This would give hibs another viable class that can compete in the crowd control wars with albs and Mids. Although we still do not have the benefit of insta cast mez and stun like Mids and Albs at least at lower levels, this would at least help possibly with more people wanting to play another class with good cc capability.

Current Hib Eld Mesmerize (AOE)

Target is hypnotized and cannot move or take any other action for the duration of the spell. Spells cast by friendly players, resistances to the spell's damage type, or realm abilities such as "Purge" and "Determination" can help to counteract the effect. If the target suffers any damage or other negative effect, the spell will break. This is an "Area of Effect" (AOE) spell which can affect multiple targets in the spell's radius. The spell's effect may be more easily resisted further away from the spell's center.
Level Name Target Cast/Duration/Recast Range/Radius Effect Cost
4 Paralyzing Wind Enemy 3.0s/10 seconds/0s 1500 range/350 radius (Resist type: Cold) 3
15 Paralyzing Veil Enemy 3.0s/15 seconds/0s 1500 range/350 radius (Resist type: Cold) 9
26 Paralyzing Cloak Enemy 3.0s/21 seconds/0s 1500 range/350 radius (Resist type: Cold) 16
37 Paralyzing Sphere Enemy 3.0s/26 seconds/0s 1500 range/350 radius (Resist type: Cold) 23
47 Paralyzing Cloud Enemy 3.0s/31 seconds/0s 1500 range/350 radius (Resist type: Cold) 30
PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
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mentalists have the longest duration mez in the game though

 

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Phlei  1 star
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Registered: 2008-12-10 18:38:51
I'll take the bait.

1. There is enough mezzing in the game. No reason at all to improve anyone's mez.
2. Eld aoe mez is the same as SM and Theurg aoe mez - equal across realms.
3. How do Bards not compete well with Alb/Mid?
4. I can see why Sorcs are attractive, since they do good damage as well as CC, but how are Bards less attractive than a Healer?

I play mid mostly and in no way do I think any realm needs more/better CC.

The only CC change in this game I would support is changing hib baseline stun to a root and giving 1 hib class stun (not sure which one).

Hib:
Bard - main mezzing class (in all groups)
Eld - short duration aoe mez (in all groups)
Mentalist - ST mez (not in all groups)

Alb:
Sorc - main mezzing class (in all groups)
Theurg - short duration aoe mez (in most groups)
Minstrel - ST mez & near unusable crappy aoe (in most groups)

Mid:
Healer - main mezzing class (in all groups)
SM - short duration aoe mez and ST mez (not in all groups)
Skald - short duration ST mez with reuse timer (in all groups)

Looks like Alb has a slight advantage, in the average group, otherwise hibs seem fine.

 

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PowPowParn  2 stars
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then shouldnt all 2ndary mezzers be increased?

air theurgs dark sm minsts uhhhh what am i missing?

 

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PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
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vamp

 

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Vyxar  2 stars
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No.

The CC balance issues facing hib have nothing to do with mez duration.

The imbalance is that Albs have theurgist pets and like 4+ other classes in most groups that run with a pet and that Mid groups run with Bonedancers who simply just bring all the pets in 1 class and then on top of that end up having a 2nd "caster" in the warlock who doesn't have to actually "cast" real spells so you end up with fewer classes per group who are rendered ineffective by interrupts. In hib if you interrupt the caster you've more or less neutralized them completely. That's simply not the case for many mid/alb casters.

If you took away every single pet in the game and compare classes --hib gets way way way better. Because Hib pets like druids, enchanters suck relative to counterparts and there is no volume pet class other than the stationary animist "pet" which serves to be another crappy annoyance to siege (like stormlords) but not much else.

 

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Phlei  1 star
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Vyxar posted:

No.

The CC balance issues facing hib have nothing to do with mez duration.

The imbalance is that Albs have theurgist pets and like 4+ other classes in most groups that run with a pet and that Mid groups run with Bonedancers who simply just bring all the pets in 1 class and then on top of that end up having a 2nd "caster" in the warlock who doesn't have to actually "cast" real spells so you end up with fewer classes per group who are rendered ineffective by interrupts. In hib if you interrupt the caster you've more or less neutralized them completely. That's simply not the case for many mid/alb casters.

If you took away every single pet in the game and compare classes --hib gets way way way better. Because Hib pets like druids, enchanters suck relative to counterparts and there is no volume pet class other than the stationary animist "pet" which serves to be another crappy annoyance to siege (like stormlords) but not much else.



Pretty much nailed it there.

 

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PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
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hi im a hib caster i most likely have an aoe spell that is useful for clearing pets

gg

 

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Vyxar  2 stars
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PasswordLLOTH posted:

hi im a hib caster i most likely have an aoe spell that is useful for clearing pets

gg



Hi I'm a mid caster and I enjoy fighting hibs because I don't have to clear pets.

Hi I'm also an alb caster and I enjoy fighting hibs because I don't have to clear pets.

Hi I'm also a hib caster who stopped playing hib casters because clearing pets is on par with killing NPC guards with is just another word for PvE.

 

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PasswordLLOTH  3 stars
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Vyxar posted:

Hi I'm also a hib caster who stopped playing hib casters because clearing pets is on par with killing NPC guards with is just another word for PvE.


hi im a decent player i clear pets off of casters/support so they dont have to worry about pets being on them

 

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