Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
Marhai posted:
Jocke-Percival posted: Elds balanced? Give me a break. They are the most powerfull caster in the game, sorcs is on the second place.
The most balanced caster is prob the RM, not to good and not to bad. And is prob the caster that have not changed much at all the last few years.
Only thing that could tip the scale for RM is their RR5, it is godly.
Seriously - Eld's are the games most op'd caster??? They're good but I'd disagree that they're the games best casting class. They're pretty solid as a dps class though they lack the synergy with the chanter that cabbies have with sorcs :
sorcs dps spec being body based allowing the cabbie to debuff body and baseline nuke body
elds dps spec being cold based meaning the chanter either has to double debuff to use their baseline heat nuke or single debuff and the eld uses their baseline.
Elds do make good utility casters or dps but then so do sorcs who come with a pet and forgo the disease and nearsight for mezz that's more than a waste of immunity timers. Sorcs synergy with the cabbie often means that the disease and nearsight is there anyway while the enchanter adds.... well a pet that's not as good as the sorc or cabbies and a rr5 that's possibly one of the worst in the game (though that's open to arguement).
I'd personally argue that neither the sorc or the eld has much on a BD (in a group) or Warlock (for dps burst). Then again that's my opinion and you obviously don't agree. RM's and SM's aren't bad either tbh - both solid casters (like the eld / sorc).
Baseline Stun.
Lightspec.
Red NS.
AE mez.
High nuke.
AE Dex/Qui debuff.
Subspec Mana
AE disease.
AE Str/Con debuff.
They are THE best, only thing that not make them ZOOMGOP is that they lack Root.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
considering you statet eld is superior to sorc or cab, you are not worth arguing, since you probably wouldn't understand anything people try to tell you. just like you made a complete tool out of yourself in the thread about dex breakpoints for castspeed. keeping this in mind, i thought it would be easier for you when i use a picture.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
Silverbolt999 posted:
b0xy posted:
Silverbolt999 posted: Sure, to heck with any other Hib class combination, lets all run around with this 3man combo Pass recommended and doing exactly the tactic he says as he is the expert you know... AND WE WILL RULE IT ALL.. no more issues with OPd Albs and Mids, this 3 man grp can conquer all!!!!!!
You're trolling.
Hey everyone, this guy's trolling.
How can I be trolling, I started this thread, maybe its joo that are trolling...troll!!
Well if you're not trolling you're an idiot, so I was giving you the benefit of the doubt on that one. But you kind of screwed yourself there so... whammy.
Chanter/Eld/Warden is THE most powerful backfield setup in the game if you ask me, ESPECIALLY when it comes to dealing with pet spam. Maybe it's a coincidence that this is a Hib setup and the other two realms have "better" pet spam, but it seems like the gods of DAoC delivered you a perfect counter on a silver platter and instead of eating if you shat on it and sent it back to the chef saying it wasn't good enough.
And that sir, is why I said you were trolling.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
Thak0r posted: considering you statet eld is superior to sorc or cab, you are not worth arguing, since you probably wouldn't understand anything people try to tell you. just like you made a complete tool out of yourself in the thread about dex breakpoints for castspeed. keeping this in mind, i thought it would be easier for you when i use a picture.
They are, look at my other post. But i am honored to talk to a monkey like you who compare 1 caster with 2 others to prove that they are not as good as the other 2 combined...
Actually the numbers in that thread is wrong and tested in a shitty way "and i added my 1 cast and multiplied it with 1000 to get a fair number"
Learn to play and learn your damn class, jesus, the RP bonuses are WAY to high if ppl like you get 11L4.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
b0xy posted: First off, mentalists, enchanters and druids exist.
Have not played much since Ments got boosted but you rarely had a Ment in a group if there was an Eld available but yeah, nothing wrong with their pets. Druids? At best you'll have one nature Druid in the group and they won't be high Nature so you might have a mediocre blue con pet and a crappy gray one, I'll take any other pet class myself as far as pets are concerned. Enchanter pets are subpar, good in some situations but far too easily delt with for what they bring and Chanters are probably the worst caster in the game, they do two things well, debuff/nuke and pbaoe but have little utility.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
Jocke-Percival posted: They are, look at my other post. But i am honored to talk to a monkey like you who compare 1 caster with 2 others to prove that they are not as good as the other 2 combined...
Actually the numbers in that thread is wrong and tested in a shitty way "and i added my 1 cast and multiplied it with 1000 to get a fair number"
Learn to play and learn your damn class, jesus, the RP bonuses are WAY to high if ppl like you get 11L4.
well, my eld was rr11 before toa came out, but that doesn't matter at all. you don't know [profanity] about daoc and obv. you are too stupid to even learn shit about daoc. you certainly were one of the zounds of clueless noname zergtards when you played this game. :-------------P
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
GrendelRex posted:
b0xy posted: First off, mentalists, enchanters and druids exist.
Have not played much since Ments got boosted but you rarely had a Ment in a group if there was an Eld available but yeah, nothing wrong with their pets. Druids? At best you'll have one nature Druid in the group and they won't be high Nature so you might have a mediocre blue con pet and a crappy gray one, I'll take any other pet class myself as far as pets are concerned. Enchanter pets are subpar, good in some situations but far too easily delt with for what they bring and Chanters are probably the worst caster in the game, they do two things well, debuff/nuke and pbaoe but have little utility.
1) both druids use their pets
2) chanter pets are stronger than you think
3) chanters have more utility than you understand
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
Dramasydle posted:
Kedali-Pellinor posted:
Dramasydle posted: Give Enchanters BD pets, Make Eld Void line have spec 331 delve bolts like Wizards, give Bards lifetap ala Sorcs, and Hibernia will no longer be underpopulated and might even put up some decent fights with caster groups.
As it stands atm a Hib caster group is great for bombing zergs in a tower and that is it, whereas an Alb Caster group can take out any 8 man setup Mids and Hibs have to offer.
This isn't like, a serious post, is it?
Ummm why wouldnt it be? Have you ran a Hib caster 8 man on Agramon in the last say...3 years or so?
If you have you would be aware of the MANY limitations of said group.
As a previous poster in this thread stated, 98% of the time as a Hib caster you are clearing pets, I cannot recall ever having to clear pets vs a Hib group when playing my RM/SM/Wiz/Sorc.
So that being the case, why would anyone be against letting Hib casters actually cast vs enemy players in a 8vs8 instead of clearing pets all the time?
Common sense would tell us that the failing population of Hibernia is due to the lack of "fun factor" running into Alb 2 Thuerg groups or Mid BD groups. Having Hibernia with a BD or Theurg style pet class would at least alleviate some of the disparity and might even bring some people back to Hibernia on a regular basis.
I will agree with you that hib is a weak realm that needs some help. However, I do not think the ideas you tossed out would be wise changes to make, other than the void bolt change (though, it would hardly have an impact on 8v8).
What would be great is to toss hibernia a weapon with 10% siphon and also take greater heals away from bards. Give the greater heal to wardens.
If Mythic did this, you could run a Bard, druid, warden support line instead of having to run 4 support classes. Doing this would allow the standard hib hybrid group to add a mentalist to the line up and by doing that you will have your own grunt pet, more pet clears, more caster dps, another demezz, some backline mezzes, and I guess some sort of light heals that you probably won't cast (assuming the mentalist is light).
The warden will go from a primary peeler/bger to the primary healer in the group (much like the support friar in albion). Of course, the warden will still have a side stun and back stun and probably the side snare, but he will have to play the class much more passive.
The lack of peels will be made up for in the increase of CC capability and dps. Sure, you lose a root from dropping a druid, but you gain a backline mez (from the mentalist) which is huge. You could almost compare this group to a popular alb setup (the Sorc Sorc Cab Theurg Merc Minstrel Friar Cleric) where there is no set tank peeler, but you can do well by simply CCing. Sure, you don't have as much CC on hibernia as that group, but I'd like to think you have enough and you also have a bit higher DPS in most cases with an enchanter, eld, mentalist backline. The warden is also a much better secondary tank peeler than the friar.
Sure, it won't make Hibernia better than Albion (8v8wise), but I think it will help to balance it up a bit since you're never going to have perfect balance.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
Increase Eld Light Spec Mez Duration
Thak0r posted:
Jocke-Percival posted: They are, look at my other post. But i am honored to talk to a monkey like you who compare 1 caster with 2 others to prove that they are not as good as the other 2 combined...
Actually the numbers in that thread is wrong and tested in a shitty way "and i added my 1 cast and multiplied it with 1000 to get a fair number"
Learn to play and learn your damn class, jesus, the RP bonuses are WAY to high if ppl like you get 11L4.
well, my eld was rr11 before toa came out, but that doesn't matter at all. you don't know [profanity] about daoc and obv. you are too stupid to even learn shit about daoc. you certainly were one of the zounds of clueless noname zergtards when you played this game. :-------------P
Great replie. Totaly avoided everything i said exept the RR thing. Congrats to you sir.
