use call of a thousand storms vs npcs

 

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hate to say it, but unless you have a sugar daddy who can front you the 60 plat to get geared, two bots and rr5, you are cannon fodder.

Thane is one of the hardest classes in the game to gear in a proper hybrid way, just because you need so much (both melee and casting stats).

Make sure to talk to the buff NPC in the frontier to get decent buffs and don't expect to kill anything one vs one unless you have at least some kind of template. Stick with the zerg and use your range advantage to do whatever you can until you have good enough gear to venture out solo or get a spot in a roaming group


Btw, what's your spec?

 

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Just cause you need all these things and still would suck doesnt mean everyone else would.

go troll elsewhere.

 

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Amen.

If they did a best of 7 I'll take the r3 thane who is willing to evaluate and learn and adapt over the whiny ranger who is probably r11.

 

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You even played since the ranger nerf, troll? Get a life.

 

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Thanks for the constructive comments guys! Vlad you were extremely helpful!

I will prob keep working on Thane just because for some reason it is the most appealing class in DAOC to me (I always play hybrids and this seems like the most hybrid type in game, plus lightning bolts are awesome!) I am understanding your weaponskill comments, but honestly its not quite the damage I am having trouble with its the "misses and full resist" I usually dont open with the resistance debuff so i will definatly start trying that out.

My spec is 50 SC 50 Axe 21 or so Shield. 50 Axe gives me an anytime 2 hit combo that has a built in DD of around 400 damage and this is pretty awesome imo. My biggest problem is just pulling this off due to missing or getting parried/blocked etc. I am glad to hear that our melee is comparable to skald/valk because they still hit me for solid amounts usually, lol.

I also did not know that every RR gives you +1 weaponskill? So being RR3 I do have a long way to go. Also I am going to pump as many RR points into the STR stat as possible as it also sounds like this is what will make me hit more often.

Just sounds like it will get better around RR5? So I will keep on truckin! I definatly know I cannot solo people for a while as I need lots of good RR points to pump up my block/parry/str/purge before I have any chance in 1v1.

Is there a stat for Thane that helps vs full blown resist also? Is it Piety?
Another question is someone in game told me to max my dex/quickness for better to hit chances as well. Do these in fact help vs misses? I was under the impression that Dex would just help my casting speed and quick is my melee speed.

Also as far as templating goes I have pretty much camped most scales/glass/BPs myself to buy a really decent set. If I had to figure how much all my gear is worth its probably hovering around 25 plat atm. Around 1500 Scales (got one of those BAD ASS dragon bracers), 3000 or so glass (bought a few bad ass artifacts that I have leveled) and around 3,000 BPs I bought resist gear with.

Thanks everyone!

 

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l2p

It's been several years since I invested a great deal of time in researching my thane's abilities compared to other classes.

Some of this will be redundant.

STR is the only stat associated with your WS.

DEX is vital, casting speed, increased block/parry.

QUI I feel has some importance. As a thane, you will get blocked and parried and evaded often. Plus your damage per hit isn't going to be so great. But the damage add helps, and the new debuff proc buff is a nice addition. You want to swing as often as possible. More so than hitting as hard as possible ( because no matter how much effort you put into hitting for more damage, you won't )

CON never killed anybody. Not a significant difference between 2300 hp and 2100 hp. After laboring in PUGs and solo with no speed, I finally squired 1million RPs. Only twice did I end up with less than 100 hps and survive an encounter. And I was a dwarf. Whether you have 400 or 100 hps left, 99% of the time the next damage value you receive is 700+.

PIE I don't know if 200 is the soft cap, but your no list caster ( last I knew anyway )you are not going to get a significant damage increase from it. Plus against a fully buffed opponent you can kiss 60% of your damage good bye. So you nuke for 300 - 60% = 120, or you nuke for 250 - 60% = 100. Either way, you need a new plan for that encounter.


PVE resists rates have always been high. Frustrating, but it happens a lot less in rvr. In rvr you will see half or more of your damage resisted/absorbed. Equally frustrating.

I'm not aware of a two style any time axe chain with a 400 dd. But I agree, that sounds strong to me. I did notice the hammer line had a couple of styles with energy dd's associated with them designed specifically for the thane. Those will drastically help you in pve. It will help in rvr too, nicely since you debuff your own damage now, but hard to get reactives off in an rvr situation.

From what I recall, thanes don't get a base chance to crit with spells. So you want to pick up dual threat 1, and wild power 3. A ten to 15% chance to crit with spells go a long way. More is better, but you don't have many RA points available to you at RR3.

Your melee damage is sub par. Not much different than a skald's. The last I knew the weapon skill you gained from having more than 50 in your weapon was mis represented. Your base damage caps at 50. Whether its 50 + 0 at RR1, or 30 + 20 at RR 10. The base damage of your weapon will be the same.
Only style damaged increases with a spec over 50. And as I stated before, with low WS, the thane just isn't going to produce the numbers you expect with 65 in hammers. Plus you will still be blocked, evaded, parried like you had 50 hammers. From what I remember, the difference between 50 hammers spec vs 39 hammer spec was about 5% average damage. I may have spiked higher damage a little more often, then again, I may have been looking for it harder when I was testing it, and just noticed it more. Wishful thinking.

a thane is a difficult class. It isn't very receptive to min/max. It accomodates a wide varity of play styles, and it is part of what you can do with your thane, as opposed to what a thane can do. For instance, I dueled vs skalds very well, except one. My guildmate did poorly against skalds, except the one I kept losing too, he always beat him. Same spec, different play style, different results.

The bottom line is balance. You won't tank like a tank, nor nuke like a nuker. But you can tank when nukers can't and can cast when tanks can't engage. Oddly enough, I found it was the thane's defensive capabilities that allowed him to perform.
Don't rely on any one aspect of your thane and you will perform better. Archers and assassins used to be my best rps solo. I'd win 80% of the time. Took a while to learn the right strategy, after that it was routine. Still died 20% of the time tho.

For RVR you probably don't need to worry about + 11 parry, or + 11 shield, or + 11 SC. I'd get some, but would sacrifice it for something else I was missing.
I wouldn't waste RA's on aug stats. You will need det, resist, crit chance, IP. Things that keep you in the game longer. It takes time for a thane to kill, no way around it. So spec/build/equip yourself for survival. hmmm Let me put it like this, don't sacrifice survivability trying to increase any one aspect, melee dmage, nuke damage, hps, etc.

I ran almost every thane spec you can imagine. 48 42 39 15 was the best for my play style. Today I would probably spec 50 50 20 20 since they nerfed slam. But I bet you I'd be back to 48 ( 10pts of str/con isn't killing anyone ) 42 ( 5 sec anytime stun is still an advantage ) 39 weapon ( because 42 weapon is not any different really ) and 15 ( because parry will help you survive, and I still did pve )