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PowPowParn  2 stars
Posts: 374
Registered: 2005-6-12 19:11:48
my favorite part is that hes a known scammer but he keeps getting away with it becuase when someone calls him out in /reg no one believes said person, they just call him a troll and then

BAM


i have about 20ish? boi and i think only 7 conflags across the realms so i dont care if i lose 1 in a trade.

which was the point of my first post.

IF YOUR GONNA GET BUTTHURT OVER LOSING ONE OF THESE ITEMS, THAN PREHAPS YOU SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFUL ABOUT WHO OR WHAT YOUR TRADING

trade was legit regardless of whatever verbal agreement you made otherwise

 

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b1u3b3rr135  1 star
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Kedali-Pellinor posted:

I'm sorry but this is just dumb. For as long as I've played DAoC, Mythic has had the same policy regarding item transactions, and I have no problem with it. It isn't the CSRs fault and there's no reason he should be fired. I don't support scammers, but bottom line is, don't hit accept without accepting the possibility of losing whatever you are trading.



um..... I really hope you're joking? If you PAY $15 a month to play a game you should not have to worry about any issue regarding with customer support. the reason you pay is so you don't have to worry about getting hacked like in these f2p MMO's. If you do get hacked you should certainly get your stuff back, and ban the guy that did it. He said there were several diff. people that had the same thing happen, that is bullshit. I would hope thats what the support staff is getting paid for. Silly statement sir.
Semi4  3 stars
Posts: 566
Registered: 2003-8-8 13:58:29
b1u3b3rr135 posted:

Kedali-Pellinor posted:

I'm sorry but this is just dumb. For as long as I've played DAoC, Mythic has had the same policy regarding item transactions, and I have no problem with it. It isn't the CSRs fault and there's no reason he should be fired. I don't support scammers, but bottom line is, don't hit accept without accepting the possibility of losing whatever you are trading.



um..... I really hope you're joking? If you PAY $15 a month to play a game you should not have to worry about any issue regarding with customer support. the reason you pay is so you don't have to worry about getting hacked like in these f2p MMO's. If you do get hacked you should certainly get your stuff back, and ban the guy that did it. He said there were several diff. people that had the same thing happen, that is bullshit. I would hope thats what the support staff is getting paid for. Silly statement sir.

Perhaps you were skimming the thread too fast.


The OP was not hacked. There was no hacking involved.


The OP was involved in a transaction that is against the rules. Transferring (trading) items from realm to realm is against the rules. Mythic has never, and should never, enforce any agreement between players where players are trying to break the EULA.


Players break the EULA at their own risk.

 

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OldFriar
Posts: 27
Registered: 2005-3-23 06:29:07
Whilst I believe that Mythic shouldn't refund any of these trades, they should take action against scammers. One scammer can potentially annoy multiple people, whilst some victims will blame the scammer for the problem - most will probably be bitter towards DAOC for it.

Mythic has a fairly vague "Spirit of the game" rule in the rules of conduct - they should use it to lock scammers accounts and remove any gains made by the scammer. If they don't then these scumbag people believe they can get away with anything.
EuphoricAnguish  1 star
Posts: 79
Registered: 2003-7-14 16:18:15
1SteamRoller1 posted:

you will feel like punching a baby seal because something can be done, but the GM is too soulless to do anything, or too lazy.



Or, he's doing his job and following the rules laid out by the people who pay him, not by some random idiot telling him how to do his job.

 

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Registered: 2010-10-24 21:32:05
Lololol.

 

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Vynnstorm
Posts: 28
Registered: 2005-4-22 02:42:59
Blizzard does that becouse pissed off kids would quit the game at the first item they loose
The real problem is you, not the csr.

 

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crazysdaoc
Posts: 1
Registered: 2009-4-6 13:38:24
My Option is not valid...

Origional Poster Should be banned for not understanding the rules and wasting a CSRs time... Yes I aggree most CSRs on DAOC are a waste of space... but rules on trading


Both players accept. Trade completes. No chat in or out of game. No other restrictions apply to it. If you are willing to trust someone and take that as valid then the responsibility for the lost items is on you.

 

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Semi4  3 stars
Posts: 566
Registered: 2003-8-8 13:58:29
OldFriar posted:

Whilst I believe that Mythic shouldn't refund any of these trades, they should take action against scammers. One scammer can potentially annoy multiple people, whilst some victims will blame the scammer for the problem - most will probably be bitter towards DAOC for it.


Mythic has a fairly vague "Spirit of the game" rule in the rules of conduct - they should use it to lock scammers accounts and remove any gains made by the scammer. If they don't then these scumbag people believe they can get away with anything.

I agree with you in principal but it may be difficult to put into practice.


If the scammer discussed things in game chat, then there is a log where both parties discuss the against-the-rules transaction. If the discussion is in the log then action should be taken. If action is taken it should be taken against both the rule breakers. In this case the scammer should be banned and the person trying to transfer gear/plat should get a suspension and a warning that further rule breaking will lead to a ban.


If Mythic puts into practice a rule where they punish such actions when the chat log clearly shows what took place, then in the future all the discussions that lead to such against-the-rule transitions will take place in some other chat or on some vent voice chat where Mythic can’t look at, or listen to, what lead to the transaction happening.


If the scammer was smart and discussed the transition out side of the game, there is no way for Mythic to know why the transaction took place (no way to know why one player gives another a bunch of gear/plat). If someone became angry with you in game, all they would need to do is have a friend give you something and then /appeal to Mythic that you are a scammer. How is Mythic to prove otherwise?


I have seen groups of friends /appeal a players name just because someone in the group became annoyed with some silly/annoying thing a player did. I would not put it past the same group (or similar groups) using some rule about trades where if 8 people file complaints it is enough to have someone’s account banned.


Also, while scammers should not profit from scamming people, both that are a party to the transition are rule breakers and both should be penalized for trying to circumvent the rules.


I posted this analogy previously but it fits, the OP effectively wants the police to enforce a drug deal gone bad.

 

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Petiro
Posts: 16
Registered: 2008-12-26 11:33:42
good csr!

lol@OP. you're stupid, beyond stupid. if that scam was too much for you, cancel and try this mmo

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