I don't think he understands what "greed" means, just like he doesn't understand what "fair market value" is. Just let him live in his delusional little world, you're not going to convince him of anything.

 

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lol, yes, it seems you in fact are. he just told everyone how he makes his money, so if someone with a brain would happen to listen, he'd be making less money.

he's greedy the same way everyone else in the game is greedy. I don't see many people running out in RVR naked because they're absolved of material needs in DAOC. so, how's it feel to be a gigantic hypocrite?

 

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yeah, fair market value does not mean "charge as much as the rich are willing to pay" ... wich is how he wants to price things...

when those less fortunate in the game then cant buy it.

the items are just as hard/easy to get as they were when those full CMs priced there wares, the effort needed to obtain the items has not gone up, the demand probly hasnt gone up with the constant dwindling population, the supply is abundant... so why would the prices need to be raised... if supply is greater then demand, then price goes down...

and if he is able to buy up the market and stockpile it, then obviously others arent buying them that fast so supply is outpacing demand... wich dictates the prices either remain at a constant, or go down...

not up just because he is greedy and wants more money off of all the items he bought up for cheap.

 

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I guess that's what they call.... Ironic!

[moderated for personal attack]

 

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@ Vyxar, Arkady, Lako, Euphoria...

Let's define a few things, so at least we all know we understand each other.

You guys believe that someone who buys an item when its cheap with the intention of reselling it at a profit is greedy.
Doesn't matter if the profit is small or large, its greedy.

Is that true?

 

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You seem like you are starting to get a glimpse of what is really happening. It is not that they have their fingers in their ears, they are existentialists.


For an existentialist, reality is not based on typical reality, reality is based on how they ‘feel’. If they ‘feel’ that you are ripping people off and they ‘feel’ that you are greedy, then you are greedy.


It does not matter that all you did was to inform the public that there is an error in the CM system that is causing some players to possibly under price some items. Often the true published definitions of words does not matter. It does not matter how many people you help in the game and it does not matter how much gear/plat you give away. It does not matter that they too have nicely decked out characters or that they do not give away all their stuff or that they sometimes try to show a profit in the game, or that. . . . . none of that matters to an existentialist.


You can argue logic to an existentialist until the world ends and you will never make much headway. It is not that they have their fingers in their ears, their mind simply does not have much use for what typically is considered logic or what is generally considered the true reality of things.


IMO existentialism is akin to some forms of insanity (often just mild insanity but still insanity).


During a discussion, or argument, if there comes a time where it becomes clear that you are dealing with a person who leans toward existentialism, that is your cue to depart. I can understand the urge and desire to try and clear away their fog and let reality shine through, but it is almost always a lost cause when dealing with existentialism.


Once it becomes clear that you are dealing with an existentialist, I have found it is usually best to simply let it go and move on.

 

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Nope.

But let's clear up your statement: You aren't talking about buying/selling or profit. Period. You are talking about strategies to play an online player GAME. You aren't BUYING any(you are play buying them) ITEMS and unless you are selling to people for real currency you aren't RESELLING anything either(you are play selling them). Worse you are talking about strategies to play a GAME that is designed to foster a community and teamwork and your strategy is to be a dick. You need to stop acting like the playing of a GAME somehow and the strategies to do so can be directly compared with REAL life economics.

Oh and P.S.

I'm a die hard "Greed is Good", Ayn Rand leaning "selfishness is a virtue" type of person so please don't even try.

 

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margin trading, isnt greedy... but your saying double or more, that is greed...

also, in the real world this type of thing is okay, in other games this type of thing is good...

but this is DAoC, where you are on a team, your supose to help that team, not charge them huge amounts of money for items that you have stock piled... what good does all the excess money you make do you? ... what items via npcs do you need the coin for? .. you dont... there arent any money sinks in camelot that require the coin...

thats why i used to give most stuff away freely, there was no point in having the money, other then to be greedy... but helping my realm mates get gear and items helped them compete in rvr better, wich did help me and the team i was playing for...

and thats something your just not understanding at all... in the context of daoc if your not helping your realm mate, your actualy hurting your realm.

 

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Semi, I have always respected you in terms of things you have said. But, you are taking up for these greedy idiots. You guys aren't seeing it as greedy because you guys are doing it yourselves. You are the ones that are selling the items for more than they are actually worth in game. I know plenty of people that cannot afford to go out and buy items all the time to get the new flashy updated templates. So you are feeding to the rich. This is greed. Your own richness.

Greed : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed


You are trying to boost the price of items, so the people with more game currency will throw out more money your way. You are buying items at low prices, so you can turn around and sell it for more, to make a bigger profit out of it. That is greed and if you guys aren't intelligent enough to see it, then please, don't even reply any more to this, because you'll never see your greed.

 

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So if you can believe me when I say I only want whatever fair market value actually is, and you don't have a problem with margin trading, then where does the contention lie?

 

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