you said you had a stockpile of items, this means the supply is greater then the demand... wich means raising the prices is contrary to supply and demand, supply is higher then demand, wich dictates lower prices, not higher...

if demand were higher, you wouldnt need to buy the item for resell because someone that needed that item would buy it... but if your able to buy and stock pile, then the market is broken.

and you obviously dont have a clue on what FMV is... for it to be fair market value, there has to be no pressure to purchase, and in daoc... people are pressured into buying items for templates to compete in RVR because without those items they wont get groups... so there is no such thing as fair market in daoc because the pressure to obtain the item is there... pricing them high is forcing people to grind for more money to afford those high prices, instead of them being available to rvr... pricing high, reguardless of wether or not the item is worth that value... is counter productive to supporting your realm...

buying an item cheap, and reselling it higher in no way can be seen as helping someone, if you were truely interested in helping that person, you wouldnt let them sell it at the low price... you'd offer them more for it... but sense its not realy helping them that your after, but your own profit/greed... you dont offer to buy it from him at a higher value, you just buy it cheap then sell higher...

in EvE, is scam people, i rip people off, i charge as much as possible for items i sell... because thats how EvE is, thats what EvE is all about...

but thats EvE, daoc is supose to be a co-operative realm wide effort to fight the bad guy...
i understand wanting to sell items for a reasonable price to cover costs of things like rent, repairs and such...
but for those things you dont need alot of plats... because there cheap....

so buying items, and stock piling them with intentions to influence the market and resell at a higher value.... thats greed and hurts the realm overall, when now those items arent available for cheap to the people that need those items for there templates, instead they are either rotting in your vault, or listed at a marked up value...

this is something your apparently not understanding at all... DAOC IS A TEAM GAME.. and your obviously not a team player, people like you are the reason realm pride is gone from the game

 

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Lesson learned

 

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just too bad it looks like it was the wrong one.

 

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actually what really needs to happen...


because my plat is australian plat, which is worth more than your dire american plat.


i should be able to buy items cheaper than others...

 

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The market should correct itself. If someone buys up all of item X then resells at a higher price, suddenly there is incentive for someone else to obtain X and resell it at a lower price. If enough of that happens, either buyer A lowers his price to the new value (possibly losing money in the process) or they end up sitting with a lot of money invested in items that will not sell. If the item does sell at the new higher price then that is its new perceived value.

An item of itself is completely worthless. Its value is established by what people are willing to pay for it. While it may seem greedy to some to engage in trying to get a better price - and I DO think the prices for items in this game are well, out to effing lunch generally - its just business. I did much the same thing in Star Wars Galaxies where there was a profession devoted specifically to this sort of speculation. While buyer A may make more money in the end, they also take a risk having all of those items sitting on a vendor and tying up whatever money they paid for them. In the meantime that money is unavailable to them until the item sells, and they run the risk that some new item will come into the game and take over the market, possibly at a lower price even.

In general, in game economies are self correcting much as real world economies. The only problem is that in game economies suffer from constant inflation because new money is always arriving in the economy and not enough leaves to balance it.

 

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Distinction without a difference. Holy effing hell I would think you were trolling but I don't think you have the capacity. In the real world money can be the difference between life and death. In the game world plat is the difference between shiny armor and slightly less shiny armor???? You want to trade.. go day trade on one of the real markets. Use ALL of your money doing it and you come back the first day you lose big and tell me distinction without a difference again.

So you telling us how nice of a person you are and why we should believe in and trust in you and spew us with your crappy sermon-like advertising actually gets a response slightly about you and you don't think it's relevant because it's about you. Pro-tip: If you don't want you to be part of the discussion then don't bring your personal self into it. Prior to that it was just a generic discussion about your strategy to be a dick to realm mates and rip people off.

Real life examples like Fair Market Value? You didn't start that comparison back on page 1? Hmmm I guess the interwebs are wrong. Must be harder to be a con man when people can go back and re-read what you said eh?

 

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On all my toons combined I probably have less than 15 plat, and I have a lot of toons. I have very little need for plat any more. I only make about 10 or 20 plat a week and I give away most of it. I give away most of the salvage wood and metal for others to level crafting or for others to craft with.


I often craft for free, not always but often. I keep low-level toons so I can find noobs and group with them to give them some training on how the game works . . . . and you have the unmitigated gall to accuse me of greed. You shroud yourself in the guise of good while you spew evil and hatred.


None of us should have to display our lives and actions to prove our generosity to you or anyone else to show that we are not what you have decide to judge as greedy. Just who the hell do you think you are?


This is a game. Some like to craft and they become good at it. Are they greedy if they show a profit at crafting and end a week with lots of extra plat? Calling a successful crafter greedy would just be silly, wouldn't it? But what if the crafter made 200 plat a week and did not need all that plat? Are they greedy now or just good at playing the crafting part of the game?


This is a game. Some like to PvP and become good at killing other players. Are you going to accuse them of being little psychopathic serial killers just because they inflict pain and destruction on others players instead of letting them go and have fun? That would be stupid, wouldn’t it?


This is a game. Some like to play the CM and ME to see how good they can get at playing that part of the GAME. So? The game allows players to have fun playing the CM and ME. It is set up so that players can play.


Are players who win at monopoly GREEDY? Don’t you see how silly that sounds. Greedy little evil monopoly winners. How silly. And yes, if a player decides to play the ME and CM, this is a bloody game and they have every right to have fun how ever they want as long as they are within the rules of the game.


This is a bloody game.


All the OP did is to let players know of a bug in the CM system that has some players incorrectly pricing goods they are selling. and you call that greed? I call your judgmentalism, complete BS.


Players that want to play the game to win, they are not evil or greedy. Players that fight to win by stomping the enemy, they are not evil, they are trying to win the game. Players that win at crafting, they are not greedy, they are trying to win at playing a game. Players that win playing the CM or ME, they are not greedy, they are trying to win the game. Player that win in monopoly, they are not greedy, they are trying to win the GAME.


Any that think a player is required to give away property in Monopoly or the player is greedy, that person is an existentialist that is making up strange and illogical ‘feel good’ rules.


Any that think a DAoC player is required to limit their ability to win at any part of DAoC, including the CM or ME, is an existentialist that is making up strange and illogical ‘feel good’ rules.


Just what makes you so self-righteous that you feel you can lord over others as our judge? Who the hell do you think you are?

 

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I'm not reading the rest of that. i never specifically called you greedy. So guess what, any respect I had for you, is gone because you assume one thing that isn't even what it really is.

 

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Also, if you idiots can't see it is greed, it just proves that it is greed because you are wanting to see it your way and how you want things done with the Market. It is your own personal greed because it is still helping you out because you are the ones taking the lower priced items off the shelf and turning around and raising the price on them. How you guys cant see the greed in that is beyond me.

 

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winner!

 

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