nothing is free, for every bonus we get there is something taken away, or nerfed. you want buff bots, you got em, but the price you pay is shears. someone can negate your bot. if you self buff or use champ buffs you get a lesser buff, but it cant be sheared. so do you want max damage with risk or mediocre damage that cant be altered? i personally think if the potions arent going to be equal to npc buffs then they shouldnt be shearable, your taking a lesser buff in exchange for security.

 

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I wonder if they could change the existing buff shears to have two effects:

On realm enemies, cast a 2 minute buff cancellation type of thing.

And on friendly players, cure one of these buff shears casted by the enemy realm.

Only problem is that you probably can't make them the same as existing stat debuffs, for obvious problems, I'm not going to explain. And depending on the way that buffs are programmed into the game, it may or may not be hard to program this type of thing.

 

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you know nvm its a bad idea because the level of the buff shears isnt the same as the level of buffs. And this way, what if someone specs like +25 to a buff spec to give maybe like a +130 str/con, then their friend gets sheared, and they can't even 'cure' it because they don't have buff shears.

Honestly I don't think buff shears are that big of a deal anyways. And like i said before I think its easier to just do +140 buff shearable buff potions that you can only cast out of combat (so you can't pop them instantly after being sheared). Seems like a simple way to solve the issue without changing much.

 

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seriously, only time im ever sheared is in a group fight, sneaks with ml10 cloak, or vs lamer shear tanks (pally,warden,mauler,vamp). If im solo and run into a shear tank or a sneak, i know its a possibility.

is it cheesy? yes


is it wrong? not at all


when i vendo banespike and kill 3 sneaks without breaking a sweat, im sure they think its cheesy, when i rr5 on my champ and start melting tanks, im sure they think its cheesy. but its part of the solo game and 8v8 scene. you adapt, they have put so many counters in the game at this point that to cry about shears shows how lazy and entitled our player base has become.


i mean 1 pot can rebuff you fully, sure its not capped buffs but its better then waiting for buffs after a rez, sometimes its an insta rez and they cant buff you atm, so you pop one of these new buffs, no big deal, better than being buffless.


cry about bots for so long, they finally give you a viable alternative, but you find something new to cry about. AND IT STILL HAS TO DO WITH BUFFS! >.>


cry about the herald being broken (still), cry about fall through any sort of structure. cry about not being able to keep up with the rest of your group. stuff that is actually game breaking, and there's no way to get around.


not buffs~

 

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I'm always surprised that people who run in groups have such a problem with shears. It takes the same amount of time to cancel out a shear as it does to shear, and the shear can be negated while the buffer is in combat, whereas you have to be uninterrupted to shear. It does suck for soloing, but I don't see why people in groups would care. Imo, stat debuffs are way worse than getting sheared. If I get sheared, I have my cleric rebuff me and I'm gtg pretty quickly. If I get stat debuffed, I spend the entire fight with my stats lower than if I were unbuffed because there's no real viable counter to them.

 

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Alb shears > enough range to shear enemy mages from safety.

Alb mages > enough range to punish enemy shearing.


Also it's quite easy for mages to get rebuffed because they're usually in range for a rebuff anyway, but offensive tanks have to stop their job and to come back to get fresh buffs, or to run buff charges, which is kinda lame.


Honestly, shears are not that big of a problem currently, but that's yet another thing pushing in the same direction.





They're completely not the same thing : shears are on classes that are necessary to groups, but only from time to time. 2 healer calsses means that one of them will do pretty much nothing but rupting most of the time, and shamans (atleast the traditional specs) obviously spend most of their time rupting. Shears are really nice because when these classes rupt, they also get utility (forcing the enemy shearing guy to rebuff, removing stats for sometime, etc).

Lol, you're using shears to cry about alb? I've played all three of the primary shearing classes to at least rr5, and they each have their merits. Alb shears have the longest range, but they also have the slowest cast time. You probably didn't know that, though. Try shearing people with a kobold shaman and see how much you care about the range you're missing.

 

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As I said, it's only a drop in the ocean.


But yeah, I knew clerics had 3.0s on their shears and now that you mention it, I would still trade any of the other shears for cleric shears, because nowadays range is where it's at. A cleric shearing has little to fear besides a nearsight. A druid or a shaman shearing on alb groups is in range for your choice between theurg pets, cabby nearsights, wizard bolts, or sorcerer mesmerize. He's also in range to get most of the enemy's pets thrown at him, and odds are high that a mincer is turning around him.

For a druid, that means he's risking his ability to heal and cast cures. For a shaman, he's risking his ability to heal (if conveniently specced) and cast cures, knowing that he's the only NS curator in the group. If you give up on mage targets, you get to shear mincers, which don't really care about their deal anyway and which have decent survival tools, mercs and armsmen, which already have to bargain to get a slot in groups, and pets. Isn't it sad that shearing the mincer's barguest is sometimes the best option for a shaman/druid ?

Stardrop and the scorpian's tail ring will give you a 25% buff bonus.

 

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