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UnscrupulousDulu  1 star
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-Move the market search NPC to a capital city.

-Remove the penalty (20%) for purchasing directly from market NPC.

-Update the interface for browsing the market.

-Allow housing merchants to hold infinite plat. Players too.
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UnscrupulousDulu posted:

Allow housing merchants to hold infinite plat. Players too.



Or just hide them from search, if they hold too much

 

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UnscrupulousDulu  1 star
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UnscrupulousDulu posted:

Allow housing merchants to hold infinite plat. Players too.



Or just hide them from search, if they hold too much



Thats a good temp fix, but its silly and arbitrary to only allow 200 plat per player. (yes i know about mansion deeds) The intent was to combat gold farmers... Well that failed, and all u managed to do was annoy ur playerbase who plays legit.
Zyzyg  1 star
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- Have the merchants charge a weekly rate based on the price of the items (see also Ultima Online).
- Require a price on all items.
- Then allow unlimited plat.

This would help get the economy in check also.

 

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Ethnad  1 star
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Auction House? I think you are on the wrong game. Go back to WoW

 

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Semi4  3 stars
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It is not an auction house. It is a Market Explorer (ME) and it allows a player to search the Consignment Merchants (CMs) that are on the porches of homes.


UnscrupulousDulu posted:

-Move the market search NPC to a capital city.

[colorurple] This suggestion would not fix much in the way of the annoyance. It is not a horrible suggestion though.[/color]


-Remove the penalty (20%) for purchasing directly from market NPC.

[colorurple]The fee for purchasing from the “Market Explorer” (ME) is intended as a money sink to help remove plat from the game. [/color]


-Update the interface for browsing the market.

[colorurple] I would agree that the ME needs many upgrades and bug fixes. [/color]


-Allow housing merchants to hold infinite plat. Players too.

. . . its silly and arbitrary to only allow 200 plat per player. (yes i know about mansion deeds) The intent was to combat gold farmers... Well that failed, and all u managed to do was annoy ur playerbase who plays legit.

[colorurple]Your suggestion is a good sound bite but it is more difficult than you seem to understand. The existing plat cap is based on the size of the computer word allowed by the data base. The max size number for a 32 bit word is 214 Plat 748 Gold 36 silver 48 copper. The plat limit is a function of the design of the database and of the game code used at the inception of the game. To increase the plat cap would require rewriting much of the game code.


For a more detailed explanation see the following information quoted from another thread. [/color]



The following quote is from this thread Topic: @Mythic - Remove Houses with Full CMs from the Search.


Semi4 posted:

This keeps coming up ever so often.


They can’t raise the CM Plat cap without rewriting most of the code for the entire game. This is one of those cases where Mythic was not fibbing when they said the cap can’t easily be raised.


The max number is based on the size of a standard 32 bit computer word. 31 bits for the number and one bit for + - . The database was designed to use a standard 32 bit computer word length. To make the word length longer Mythic/Bioware needs to build a new database for the entire game and they need to recode any part of the game that manipulates/accesses/moves Plat/Gold/Silver/Copper to start using a double length word (64 bits). So, to increase the Plat cap, the database needs to be scrapped and rebuilt and much of the game code needs to be scanned and rewritten.


A computer 32 bit word for the number 1 looks like:

0000000000000000000000000000001

A computer 32 bit word for the number 5 looks like:

0000000000000000000000000000101


214 748 36 48 is created by filling the word with ones:

1111111111111111111111111111111


Once the 32 bit word is full of ones the number cant get bigger without making the word longer. The only way to make the word longer is to use a double length word. It can be done but as I previously stated it would require rebuilding the database and much of the game code.


It would be easer if Mythic/Bioware simply let players purchase items from a CM full of Plat and allowed the money to vanish as a penalty for some player leaving their CM full of cash. This would actually be easy to do, as it was accidentally the default when Foundations first happened.


When Foundations first happened, if I recall correctly, players found that if their CM was full of cash and players purchased from the CM, the plat/gold that was used to purchase an item simply vanished. Players yelled and to fix the problem Mythic added code to shut off the ability to purchase from a CM when the CM was full of Plat. Bioware could simply reverse things and let players purchase from a full CM.


(Edit: Thinking about it a bit more I seem to recall that what really happened was when the CM when over the limit it set the first bit in the computer word which changed the way the computer viewed the number from positive to negative.


However or whatever. . . .It is still easer to simply let players purchase from a CM that is full of plat and then let the purchase money vanish as a penalty for keeping a CM full of cash. That would be a fix that is easy to code.)



More info on increasing the plat cap in the following threads.


Topic: Please increase the hardcap of your coin 200p

Topic: Why are there no Mithril coins?

 

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DarkPCK  2 stars
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UnscrupulousDulu posted:

Thats a good temp fix, but its silly and arbitrary to only allow 200 plat per player. (yes i know about mansion deeds) The intent was to combat gold farmers... Well that failed, and all u managed to do was annoy ur playerbase who plays legit.


The "intent" is that there's no infinity in computing...

 

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a new query system would be awesome

 

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Corfel  3 stars
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auction house lol


Welcome to DAOC where we have Consignment Merchants

 

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UnscrupulousDulu  1 star
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Its an auction house. And a rather poor one. The reason for moving the auction house to the capital cities, is so people wont have to move between the ywain servers, they can just put their goods up for sale and buy goods on the shared server, and everyone is happy.

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