That MoC PBAE argument is ridiculous.


The only realm that can effectively counter zerks with MoC PBAE is Albion, and that's because of BoF. Even then, as a cloth caster with capped melee resists zerkers hit me for 200-250 through BoF. Add Vendo to that and they can double it, and then add zerkers who assist and the PBAE will drop pretty quick.


Also, shield slam can easily shut down an MoC PBAE which lasts only 15 seconds, zerkers are around until they are dead and they hit hard Vendo'd or not.

What a bunch of stupid ass, fotm idiots you guys are. Must be nice to spam doublefrost and watch teh l33t RP's come in. I love your pathetic arguments.


Get some masterpiece armor! You're probably wearing crap! (nevermind, he does)


Scale is vulnerable to slash! (so that still means he has 18% resist, dumb ass)


Hibernia has pbae, so our zerkers do 1000+ damage! (what do spiritmasters have?)


OMG, u r only teh rank 5! She is teh l33t R7! Get some RP's n00b! (RP's don't affect damage, mmmmk)


Zerkers are all Midgard has! Nevermind our pure DD caster that will almost always have 10 second PBT. Nevermind spiritmasters! They can't do damage! Nerfed! Forget about warriors! Nevermind our healers and their abundance of abilities! Forget about AE stun! Zerkers are all we got! How about savages? Best tank class in the game right there. (idiots)


At least come up with some better excuses already you dumbass no skill fotms.

<Holds hands up and shrugs>


Not going to convince you without showing you. However, I strayed way off point... you wanted to postulate that the damage in *that* screenshot is too much for the timespan in which it is delivered I believe. Well probably (comparatively to other melee classes), but that is probably due to the haste and celerity the zerk is working under rather than his fast left axe.


The last thing we want is for zerks to be nerfed *because they are difficult for most people to overcome* though... bring attention to BM's and Mercs and everyone wins. If your tactics revolve around fighting fire with fire you can then send in your zerker counterparts to do what they are doing to your team. I'm just uncomfortable with 'fire vs. fire' as a valid tactic for a tri-realm game. I prefer to put out fire with water myself, but I have the luxury of playing with a bunch of old farts who think about all this way too much


Thinking about it... I'd be fast to agree that a pickup Hib/Alb group is going ot have more problems than a pickup Mid group... MAYBE that is an indication that in 8 vs. 8 there is indeed an imbalance and it *probably* resides with very versatile healers and hard-hitting zerks. Yeah, I'd agree that *may* be showing us something but I would want to run a lot of testing round that.

 

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It is incredibly stupid like fast berserkers businesses damage with how much damage that they can take. They clean much capacities as well as domination of the concentration as well as for example pain have and ignore. Berserkers never can justify rationally its damages edition or can argue that they become underpowered. You NEEDING berserkers, it only berserkers do not want to have such high damage. Midgard is easy mode and that it have blademaster obviously not tried if they to believe to win that it that additional damage NEEDING, and if they always so easily win, it is not probable the people that smart over out its spam of the double frost are! After berserkers nerfed becomes, each will be happy except Midgard, and Midgard can win would be allowed to recognize it quiet. Sometime we might "support joke everyone approximately berserker damage in the days" instead of sphenes.

I don't want Blademasters and Mercs doing Zerker damage. Having one class in the game like that is already overkill.


Zerkers, Blademasters and Mercenaries should do more damage than their primary tanks, and this includes spear/polearm users (over time of course). If a Merc is swinging both weapons and getting 300 total every 3 seconds, to a polearmer getting 500 every 6, then it's working right.


However right now we've seen hits from zerkers that double and in some cases triple the damage output of a typical Warrior 2h hit. It's unbalanced and it needs to be toned down.

>>Zerkers, Blademasters and Mercenaries should do more damage than their primary tanks, and this includes spear/polearm users (over time of course). If a Merc is swinging both weapons and getting 300 total every 3 seconds, to a polearmer getting 500 every 5, then it's working right. <<


You said more. 300/3=100. 500/5=100. They have the same damage over time. Your example needs to be redone? The mercenary isn't hitting any harder than the polearm.

Yea my bad, I meant polearms swinging every 6

oh boy this is going to be fun.


First off, to you mids, f%$k you all for even trying to defend zerkers and calling them the balancing of the realms.


To the gerbil if violet that called Stag a liar, got cheese on the taco? Bad day? PMS?


I am a lvl 50 hero. I wear pc armor. I have all my melee resists capped. I run with full buffs in the morning crew. I have 1722 weaponskill when I'm fully buffed and I'm R5L3. I wield an MP arcanite hooked spear, 16.5 dps, 5.0 spd, and an MP arcanite hooked spear. I have over 300 str fully buffed. All my stats are capped. I have 50+15 CS/50+15 Parry as my main skills.


I have NEVER NEVER NEVER hit a lvl 50 of ANY class for over 900 dmg. I am using the hardest hitting spears of Hibernia. There is nothing I can do that I know of to increase my dmg anymore. Getting MoP higher (it's at 2) won't increase my dmg, it just increases my chance to crit. I rarely ever hit lvl 50 casters for 700+, and if I do, I see no - next to my dmg which means it's partially their fault for not having any resists.


Yet a ss is posted of a hero similiar to me getting hit for 902, 747, 788, and 1037 in ONE fight by the SAME player that is a melee class, and you mids think this is all right?


Armsman using a slashing polearm hit me for 500+. I have no problem with that. I'm weak to slash, they usually kill me since thrust isn't all that great against plate. Do I cry? Nope. I have no problem with dying.


But ya know what most say about mid? They hate fighting you. Not because they don't like a challenge, but because you have a class that completely unbalances the battle field.


I have a blast going up against alb groups. Doesn't matter if they have BoF/SoS or whatever. I've been in 8 vs 8 battles with alb groups that have lasted upwards of 5 - 10 minutes. We've lost some, we've won some. But EVERY SINGLE ONE has been a blast.


Pure skill is involved.


Does this ever happen going against a mid group? Nope. You all have the cheesy 'tape down the doublefrost hot key and spam f8 until all enemies are dead'.


It doesn't matter if I go after healers, casters, zerkers, or whatever.


If I go after healers/casters, I get killed in 2 seconds because of the zerkers on my back.


If I try to protect my support, they get one shotted and then I get hacked up in 2 seconds by the zerkers.


If I go after the zerkers, they get healed and I get hacked up in 2 seconds.


If we get cc off, it's purged and our support is hacked up in 2 sec's before they can try more cc.


How does it feel to an I WIN button. All you mids bitch about BoF. Guess what, the only reason you hate it is because once, every 30 minutes, a group can take you out. Sucks to eat dirt doesn't it. (oh Sanger, /bird)


Alb and Hib are about 50/50 right now. I feel we are fairly balanced. Mid? You all can go suck an egg.


Playing a zerker requires ZERO skill. Because pretty much all mid groups have 2+ zerkers in them, playing a mid requires ZERO skill.


Yea, bring it on. What are you going to do, gerbil on me?


I don't usually lower myself to personal insults but you all have brought it on yourself. I put my zerker on the shelf because they AREN'T fair to play.


How do the rest of your realmmates that have spent the time lvl'ing up warriors and thanes feel. Are you happy that you wasted their time? Must suck to be one since the only tank anyone wants in an rvr group is a zerker. I really feel sorry for the poor players that worked hard to get to 50 only to be told 'you suck, we want a zerker'.


You zerkers have the nerf stick coming. When it hits, I'm going to farm you like there's no tomorrow.


I hope they nerf you zerkers to hell, give warriors a new unique weapon for mid like they should have and raise the warrior dmg cap some.


/rant off and waiting for the ban.


(It's worth it though)

 

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That doesnt sound too bad Kowyn, wish Mythic could hear that.

Boy this thread is amusing.


I remember when Lanalae was level 47 and 74k RPs and hit me from the front, nonvendo for 587 on 29% slash resist in Emain a while back.


Then Shayll hit me a couple of days ago with 29% (19% effective) resist for 787.


Adrydana, keep spitting out funny arguments. They're good for sitting here while I look for something to entertain myself. You get hit for 500 damage every 2 seconds by a PBAE chanter?


ono


u r 2 close 2 chantr so bck up or kill him n 2 hits k? thx


Sorry. <ahem> Trying to speak in their native tongue. Can be difficult sometimes, you know.


Oh, and Adry? Your little 'All your RPs are belong to us' thing in your sig, really really disgusts me. People like you are ruining any concept of roleplaying that is LEFT on this server, as well as disrupting a good, nond00dish playerbase.


How I wish you and your little FOTM friends had never come here.