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3/11/03 1:54am
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ever noticed that violet zerker in her group? that would be me. and yes, im calling you a liar because im 99% of the time with her. you exxagarate too much. and if you know that scale is vuln to slash, then you should know that your posts has about same substanse as a lvl 41 with 0 slash resist has by posting things like that
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So what if a group runs with 2-3 zerkers, we dont come complaining when a group of hibs has 5 MoC chanters... now do we?
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NYN-X Posts: 2
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Wow, I had noticed that zerk hitting me for damage like that every time she hit me, but I assumed it was becuase I was only 45-49... However, Wow, that, on a 50 hero, with 28% slash resist (18% effective)... I wish my zerk could hit like that. How the hell does she do that? RR7 doesn't make that much of an enormous difference from RR5 in terms of damage, unless you load up on tons of passive RAs
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go Raix!
/hug
/kiss
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Bollark Posts: 21
Registered: 2002-7-24 08:50:51
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You know I am kinda hard on my own grammar in posts but then I read what some other folks write and I just shake my head.
I understand that complex sentence structure may be tough to deal with so can we just start with capitalization of the first word in a sentence?
kthxbye!
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Date Posted:
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"Lastly, I am not here to talk about battle tactics and whatnot; this thread is about zerker damage and even if lanalee's attacks were from behind and using back styles (which they weren’t, mind you) this damage is inexcusable."
For the record, the attacks used were from behind, using snowsquall and icy brilliance, and I was in Vendo form. In vendo form, all hits are crits, every hit there was a critical.
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3/11/03 1:54am
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Staghorn you make good points after my post regarding situational RvR but pretty much describe 'getting jumped' by Mids... 'getting jumped' by anyone should end in your death given relatively similar RR's and experience. I'll defer to more experienced shield users that you can only land one slam per minute per target... feels like I get slammed more than that but I would being the slammee rather than the slammer
<waves at Olo> Hiya mate  Heard you were over here in some form or other
I am not trying *justify* zerk damage relative to anyone else BUT as Olo describes our team fought Mids 90% of the time and there is only one group we cannot defeat (well we did once but that is just a happy memory now). ALL other groups (which USUALLY include 2-3 zerks are MEAT). The reason why Rel Por are powerful is in their support functionality... incredible healers, twitch-speed nearsighters and non-stop RvR experience as one unit. The reason why we used to roll the other ideal Mid gank groups was in containment of zerkers and I have described our strategy. Assuming you don't get jumped (and hence die quite rightly so)... AE root the lot, purges go up, land your mezz... you MAY be CC'd in between by their healers but I can't stress enough how you need two GP druids and personal purge to be CC immune and successful these days. The zerks are coming for your bard 100% of the time if they are smart so have a shield on him.. don't charge their healers, shoot them from afar. For maximum fun ensure you have at least 4 pets in the group (two light ments with 50+ pets and two GP druids with grey interrupt pets)... healers can't heal anyone then.
We can now counter what I've suggested with a suitable strategy based on theory but it just doesn't happen in practice. They want to kill you with their zerks... that's HOW they kill you... don't let em get anywhere near you. The worst thing you can do (and this is where polearms folks sometimes get their Alb gank groups killed fast) is charge.
The draw of the heavy damage weapon is strong I know (especially when you see what a zerk can do) and it works in PvE but it doesn't work in RvR... it's too slow and 'forces' the owner of the weapon to run at the enemy leaving you all dead at the rear. Having said that, Defender's Rage has torn a new hole in my helmet a few times, I've also done the Benny Hill-esque run around like a headless chicken with zerkers all over me cos the mezz never stuck or we CC'd in the wrong order, but it's so rare, I just ignore polearms guys... as I would ignore spearos who are probably bouncing off the RM's 6s PBT anyway if I were a Mid... and zerks... I just watch the bard - 'cos they are going for him/her, stop em mid charge and murder their support crew.
Sounds easy, it's isn't by a long shot for about 2 months... THEN it gets easy. As I say, I have BEEN on the nerf zerks bandwagon because on the face of it they look completely out of whack with everything else... but they aren't... they are easily overcome.
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Luryn Title: Scruffy monkey
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Registered: 2002-11-29 15:14:56
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I think the problem with beserker is the low Qui = Huge front loaded damage output. When a dual wielding class easily out-damage a 2-handed pure tank in front load damage, there is something wrong. I have yet to see a 2-handed pure tank do over 1000 damage in front loaded damage on a daily basis.
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Castyn Posts: 5
Registered: 2002-6-17 16:28:54
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"All your RPs are belong to us!"
Adrydana, I think that about sums you up. Yes scale is vulnerable to slash, thats an effective 15% loss to slash resist, so 28% would still theoretically be around 13%, which is still NOT NEGATIVE. NARF ME DO MATH!
Could you do me a favorite, press delete when you log in, type yes, and go to a server where you can name yourself UBERRPFARMEROFDOOM or whatever it is that gets that tiny dick of yours all excited.
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Date Posted:
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that sounds all nice a dandy Faeyd, but why should i purge an AE CC that lasts no longer than 10 secs with Det 3+ resists? no form of AE CC lasts longer than 15 seconds on me. besides, being rooted means nothing since someone ALWAYS runs by me with dmg shield on ;-) besides, getting a group running with speed 5 + sprint towards you CCed before some of us at least reaches you is kinda hard. oh yeah, insta mez.. that icon flashes the sec is hits me, so that wont last long <shrugs>
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