Runemasters get confusion (which kills pets), nearsight (which is WAY over the range of theurgist pets), and bolts (which damage, interrupt, and are over the range of anything a theurgist has aside from pets).


Let's compare the range of all this, to see what you COULD be doing to stop this so-called "I win". (We'll discuss the fact that you're an utter idiot later, when we explain what an "I win button" really is.)


Nearsight - Runemaster - 2300 range - 20 power MAX

Pet - Theurgist 2000 range - 12% power EACH

Bolt - Runemaster - 1875 range - 30 power MAX

Confusion - Runemaster - 1500 range - 23 power MAX


If a theurgist casts a pet at you, you could run in and nearsight the theurgist. They would then, at the highest level of nearsight, have to get 65% closer to you to cast another pet.


If a theurgist casts a pet at you, you could cast confusion on the pet, it dies, and go with the whole bolt/nuke/dead route.


But instead, you let these kill you, and call our pets "I win" buttons. Do you even know what an "I win" button is?


It is a single button that, when pushed, guarantees (or gives a 90ish% chance) of a win. One pet will NOT mean that the theurgist can win, especially since you do have methods to counteract the pets... you just, for some reason, choose not to. And for all the people claiming our pets still chain stun, SHOW ME LOGS. That's right, proof. Something other than an "I wasn't paying attention, didn't know what to do, and died to the gimpest class in the game. To make myself feel better, I'm gonna cry!"


Lastly, this thread is about EARTH and ICE. Show me classes in your realms with as little options as the theurgist. Most are the "dreaded air spec" because they realized that the other two specs, which most people would have loved to spec in, SUCK. If you want to see less Air theurgists, support the fixing of Ice and Earth lines! I promise, if the fix is good, you'll see a lot less of "Mid's Most Hated Enemy". (As a side note, if more of your frickin' healers specced Aug, you'd have the spirit resist that Mythic gave you to prevent the so-called chainstun.)

Yes Mythic, please make Earth Theurgs an uber line so as well as Ablatative Chant, AF Spec Buff, AF Chant and BoF, Albs can have PBT in every group and become literally unmeleeable. Well, even MORE unmeleeable. Gotta love perfing those Pallys for 130.


That would be just great for game balance...


If Albs get a viable PBT line, every one of those above abilities needs to go to Midgard as well.

Is this Mid Retard Day, or what?

What about when you cast those earth pets, and the earth buff lights up the target, that it actually roots his ass!


That gives those lumbering earth pets time to take a few swings at the target before he turns and runs.


Maybe after draining a whole power bar on earth pets, who have a subject rooted, they can kill a keen caster if they all get a hit on him before the root wears off!

Single target stun and AE stun for Earth Theurgists and single target stun for Earth Wizards.

/bump

"es Mythic, please make Earth Theurgs an uber line so as well as Ablatative Chant, AF Spec Buff, AF Chant and BoF, Albs can have PBT in every group and become literally unmeleeable. Well, even MORE unmeleeable. Gotta love perfing those Pallys for 130."


give us aoe stun, aoe insta stun, aoe insta mezz, and insta mezz, please. Give us endurance buff that doesn't use power to run. Allow us to spec 2h weapons wihtout using 2x spec points. Give us a class with 100 str. Give us a nuker that can debuff his own damage type for a 179 delve dd. Give us perfect recovery. Allow those pallys to hit you back for more than 60 damage.

"Oh yeah, nerf PBT."


Too late...Mythic did. Hell, they nerfed attack speed debuff...guess our dirt was too uBaH!


"a the insta win button Threurg's get from chain casting chain stunning air pets that are immune to CC isn't enuff."


Ya, a secondary damage dealing class that blows its whole power bar to kill someone...shouldn't be able to do so. God damn moronic FOTM player, shut up, and go back to your n00b powerlevel sessions, will you? Big people are talking here kiddy.


Plus, I bet that nice Air Pet "I WIN" button looks really nice on my Earth/Ice Theurgist. Riiiiight.


"DONT forget that bolts have SHORTER range then theurgists pets so its really easy to not get bolted when you can send 1 pet run back wait till the pet stuns the rm and kill him so whats your point?"


The fact that you can WALK to bridge the bolt gap, cast your bolt, and nuke the Theurgist to kingdom come before he can do anything...THAT would be our point numb-nut. Not to meantion nearsight, which again effectively neuters the Theurgist more than they were before.


"Is this Mid Retard Day, or what?"


I think it's Mid Retard Month, actually...since when have Midguards needed any special reservation of time to be stupid?

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I like the way mids are always complaining about something... specially since I play my 50shaman/runie/savage more then I play my albion characters, I get first hand witness to it. A good group of midgards is a VERY powerfull thing, theres just not enough smart people playing mid. A smart pac healer can pretty much win it for you 95% of the time. Ok ok, yeah the Berserker nerf was a bit much, there is room for complaint there but they DID need toning down. It is a well known fact umong the mids that their (our) berserkers were VERY overpowered. But now they got hit too hard I think, but its no reason to come here and get pissed at theurgists. And the only reason albions are ever a trouble (on my albion server and my mid server) is cause they are mostly the zerg, not because they have overpowered classes. Its getting too annoying with all the mids coming here and puttin their own 2cents about chain stunning pets. Funny that most mid classes can kill other players way more efficiently and way faster then the pets do, and they can usually kill faster then it takes for the pets to reach their targets, let alone if the person who the pets are attacking runs. Guess those trolls got too much skin and bone in their heads for any brain power, and we all know dwarfs are hard headed, kobies are too small to have large craniums, and norsemen are too drunk to know whats going on. Valkyn, well look at em, they are retarded.