It's funny watching game hackers preach to the cheating masses Imagine you guys had spent your time developing something productive? You could have built a game by now eh bud? Instead you guys are sitting around with a broken old hack with a following of a few hundred cheaters waiting to get the macros back lol.


Ah well.. you guys didn't have the talent to build a game but you sure destroyed the population of one, so you got me there lol Good luck on the memlocs!

 

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Imperil: there is no need for that.


It is what it is. Decal is a BENEFICIAL part of the game.. you don't like it, you don't use it.


Don't try to make everyone else suffer because you're unhappy. You can see from the poll on this forum that a LOT of people use Decal for perfectly legitimate uses.


Technically, the Decal Code of Ethics goes against any form of "cheating", so I'm not sure what you're even trying to portray about Decal or its developers.


As I said.. don't like it, then don't use it. And since this is an AC Utilities forum, if you don't like the AC Utilities, then maybe you shouldn't be hanging around here.


Also... Decal didn't ruin the game. Overall, it extended the life of the game for a LOT of people. Certain plugins may have helped turn the game into more of what it is now, but do you honestly believe that AC would be alive today WITHOUT Decal?

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Sorry clicked the wrong forum and got a good laugh, my bad. I do respect you guys as developers, just don't understand why you couldn't put it towards something real.


If I make an aimbot for Half Life 2, distribute it, but contain a usage statement saying that you should not be using this for online play.. does it mean it's not a cheat anymore?


You can easily refer to the AC population graphs and when certain macro programs became quite widespread, it tells the story plainly. Sorry I'm just a little bitter... instead of making something great you guys brutalized a great game. There are still a couple hundred cheaters out there left on the servers though, so by all means get this thing working lol.


EDIT: "Also... Decal didn't ruin the game. Overall, it extended the life of the game for a LOT of people. Certain plugins may have helped turn the game into more of what it is now, but do you honestly believe that AC would be alive today WITHOUT Decal?"


- If you honestly believe that yourself.. than I take back saying I respect the developers on the team. I mean it is quite easy to see when the population died, it was when the cheats were allowed to come out and be semi-legal. Would AC be alive? .. Would UO? .. actually yes UO would.. and it wouldn't have lost over 80% of it's playerbase because of cheats. If you can't see when the population decline happened in AC, than you sir need to put away your IDE and take stats class.


But hey.. this is my last post here, my bad, wrong board. You guys can believe it all you want.. just please please please keep hacking the crap out of this game, I would hate to see more get ruined.

 

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<< Sorry clicked the wrong forum and got a good laugh, my bad. I do respect you guys as developers, just don't understand why you couldn't put it towards something real. >>


Do you know what any of them do for a living? Maybe they like this as a hobby as a way to relax.

 

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" Do you know what any of them do for a living? Maybe they like this as a hobby as a way to relax. "


- Not these guys, but I did know a couple of them and what they did, we talked regularly. A lot of them are hobby developers, VB kiddies, web developers, etc.

 

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I don't think AC would be around right now WITHOUT Decal. I think a lot of functionality would not be in the game. I think a lot of people would have gotten bored and left a LONG time ago.


Then again, it's hard to say because Decal IS a part of this game. As for your "respect" comment, you can respect whomever you want. I don't NEED your respect to feel better about myself. I feel good about myself just providing the services I do. Whether you use them or not, or like them or not, or even respect them or not, those are all your decisions. Just wanted to let you know that I wouldn't be losing any sleep over it.

"I don't think AC would be around right now WITHOUT Decal."


- Than you sir are too full of yourself, because if you look at the population graph and even just history you can easily tell when AC declined.. I don't have to tell you that.


EDIT: btw I don't have to say this, but you guys are really good developers. I just don't see why you aren't working in the industry helping us to build great things rather than just building hacks.

 

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You're comparing 2 different things.. you're comparing the population drop to when COMBAT MACROS were released... not when Decal itself was released.. which was a LONG time before ELTank or other combat macros were released.. also.. you'll also notice that if you check the graphs yourself (which aren't overly accurate) they don't show the decline when ELTank was released, but actually quite a bit AFTER ELTank was released.


I dislike Combat Macros as much as the next guy, but you can't look at Decal overall and just generalize as a "Combat Macro".. that is very ignorant.

My bad, I know I shouldn't totally generalize. Turbine just never should have allowed third party hacks because even though Decal has so much more functionality, and things that realistically 'should' be built into the game.. it is all shadowed by the macros and cheats.


Hey I wrote one of the first tank macros waaaaay before ElTank branching off one of Akilla's drain plugins.. so yeah I know how long it has been around. I also realized how I was breaking the game for other people and stopped development on the plugin.. although I knew somebody would write one and put it out there.


At least the majority of games out now and games in the future have seen what third party games do to an MMO and the companies reputation with the players... it looks like AC1 is the last of it's genre, the MMO with allowed cheats (or plugins, whatever you would rather me call them).

 

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