Actually it came with $30 days free, if you ALSO bought the Pre-Order, you got another 30 days.


If they didn't "make anything", then why didn't they just do it the way they have been adding features and content before, via patches. To use your own phrase ... " Sometimes you have to be aware that you don't know everything that is going on." That doesn't just apply to me and Technical issues, but YOU and marketing and sales issues as well.





Yup, and it most likely isn't going away. Just going to be ignored, IMO, until Turbines next cash cow is ready.

This needs to happen. I suggest moderator help at this point also. Keep it as a sticky, and have it edited frequently to avoid issue with people threatening etc.. JUST MAKE SURE IT STICKS TO THE MAIN TOPIC.


If I could edit those posts I would moderate the dang post. JUST THAT POST. Nothing else.


I would love to help the community as best as I could. Soon as I am home, I will post my config.

Arch_Magi: I work in Marketing and Sales. (as a developer... ironic as that may be).


I know plenty about that stuff. But my knowledge isn't what's in question.. it's your assertion that Turbine is going to forget about anything and blow it off, and that they're just blowing everything off until MEO or DDO or whatever comes next and starts making money for Turbine.


That simply isn't the case. Believe it or not, people at Turbine actually still care about AC.

<< No, it means that what you said was funny, not that we/I have FACTS. >>


I have little doubt that facts were not a priority for you.


<< Does the "Where are the Ultra High Resolution Graphics we paid for?" ring a bell? >>


I got them, didn't you? As quickly as I would have liked? No, but I rather they waited to address issues rather then releasing them and then addressing the issues.


Do you understand the business decisinos for doing so? Yes it sucks, but I know it came down to the coins in the piggy bank and not a desire to blow off the customers.


<< O Developers, anything further would be just a comment on Turbine PATHETIC customer support and customer relations ... which is what Frelorn's job is. >>


How much money do you pay them each much in subscriptions fees and how come?

 

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<< Stick to the issue. There is a memory leak in this game, regardless of system configurations, this should not be happening. >>


I agree that is the issue for many people. For some reason I can keep my bot logged in for a week and still using the same amount of memeory as when I first logged in. Why? I have no diea, works great for me. I don't doubt for one minute that others do see a memory leak. The hard part is re-producing that leak on your test systems so you can fix it.


I've know up here in our little development floor we have done projects that work great on our machine, on someone elses machine, and 99% of the machines we install it on. Then there will be that one machine, that is configured exactly like every other machie as far as we can tell, that the application fails to run on. Why? Wish we could figure it out at times.

 

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You work in Marketing and Sales for Turbine? I stand corrected. I thought you worked for Marketing and Sales for a company other than Turbine. I appologize, since you work for Turbine you DO know about the information then. I mean if you worked in Marketing and Sales for another company, you would just be a hypocrit for blasting someone who works as a programmer for another company commenting on Turbines technical issues. I stand corrected.








#1 You are wrong.


#2 I got them, 6 months after I paid for them. That was my point, and you still didn't answer my question, name another game where you paid for the expansion and had to wait 6+ months for it to be delivered after you got it expansion?


#2a Yes I understand them, it comes down to money. Turbine did not spend enough of it on AC once they transferred people FROM the AC team to MEO and DDO. Simple as that.


#3 I currently pay them $51.80 a month, which is down from what I used to pay them. I also shelled out $569.05 for the Expansion Pack. As for the MAIN reason why I do this, given that they have scrapped the "Elder System", because if I left AC, the 2nd largest guild on Harvestgain would crumble and fade to dust and I have been told by at least 15 people that if I left (and I have been grumbling about doing so on our guild boards) that they would end their AC playing days. Bottom line, I'm MAINLY now doing so because of other people. The recent patches have left NOTHING to call "fun". It is nothing more than mindless grinding to get to 275 and the HOPE that Turbine adds REAL CONTENT to the game again and not just "Title Management" and "Friends List" windows.

Arch bashing Turbine. Who'd have thunk?

 

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I bash anyone who is neglecting the game I love to death.

<< #1 You are wrong. >>


Fine, and I'll ask again, prove it. Show me the money. Habeas corpus ad testificandum.


<< name another game where you paid for the expansion and had to wait 6+ months for it to be delivered after you got it expansion? >>


I got the expansion when it was released, with the very clear statement to myself that the high-res graphics would be available after the release of the expansion pack. What did you do, open the ToD box, find it empty, and wait 6 months to get the CD sent to you?


<< because if I left AC, the 2nd largest guild on Harvestgain would crumble and fade to dust >>


And if those people wanted, they would continue to play AC. Don't think to highly of yorself.

 

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#1 More to the point, why don't you ask the person who made that comment, not me. I've already given you my reasons.





#2 Yeah, I got the expansion pack and it wasn't empty, but what was missing was the UHRG and there was no note in there that they were coming in the future.


#3 I don't, I'm just stating what others have SAID themselves.