And what part of Frelon's statement did he say he was blowing it off and say it wasn't a problem? Was it when he said they were aware of the issue and trying to address it but unable to reproduce it? Or perhaps when he said they (Turbine) would continue to try and resolve this issue?

 

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<< Maddy, given his track record, and given what I know of the problem, I have to believe he blew it off until proven otherwise. >>


And what is his track record? What has Frelon done in the past to lead you to this conclusion.

 

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Thanks, I needed that laugh.

Hmm, ask for facts, and the response is laughter. Usually means that you don't have the facts to back up yor statement. Not too surprising.

 

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No, it means that what you said was funny, not that we/I have FACTS.


Does the "Where are the Ultra High Resolution Graphics we paid for?" ring a bell?


Hundreds of people ask on every board imaginable, emails sent, even lawyers were contacted over it, and NOTHING. Totally BLOWN OFF until THEY announced it, 6 months AFTER tens of thousands of customers bought the product.


You want another example of when Turbine BLEW OFF the customer base? Right along the same lines, the "Elder System". Same deal. Turbine was ask in a number of ways, and for 6 months, they were blown off until Turbine ANNOUNCED that they unilaterally were cancelling the system ... a system which was hyped as one of the reason FOR the expansion pack.


Shall I continue? Maybe not here, this is a Developers board. My inital comment was inresponse TO Developers, anything further would be just a comment on Turbine PATHETIC customer support and customer relations ... which is what Frelorn's job is.

Last I remember, Turbine never said the Elder system was a for sure thing.. in fact.. if I remember correctly, Jessica said it once as a possibility of things they were looking into.. never once do I remember seeing from Turbine that the Elder System was going to be a part of the expansion pack.


As for the high-res textures, the Expansion Pack shipped with a LOT of updated graphics.. maybe not the same as the new high-res images that they are doing now, but it certainly had improvements over the older graphics and textures.


Sometimes you have to be aware that you don't know everything that is going on. In my opinion, I'm just happy to finally see the expansion... albeit later than projected initially. There are quite a few factors that lead up to the delayed release, and the lack of some content that people feel they were promised... and I'm SURE that Turbine will do anything they can to try to get all those things into AC and in the hands of the Expansion Pack customers... it just may not happen immediately... doesn't mean it won't happen.

Ok, forget being a programmer for decades, I've been a gamer for longer, and aside from this "expansion", I can not think of a single expansion pack where what was said was going to be in the expansion pack was delivered 6 months AFTER the fact and the company that delivered it said NOTHING about the status for those 6 months, then cancelled one of the items that, if not everyone, a large portion of the population, was expecting because an OFFICIAL of the company said it was going to be.


I've done the polls from thousands of people on the boards, and bottom line, over 70% of the people feel that the expansion pack was nothing more than a "money grab" for $29.95 a copy. ALL of what people can see, new race, new island, new armor, new dungeons could have EASILY been done in the same 6 months of time that Turbine gave us NO patches what so ever.


Heck, they gave us Asheron's Island, Caul Island, and Alphus Lassel (sp?) all without an expansion ... those were all "month content patches".


Sure I can't disprove your "you don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes" statement, but I do know some of it. I'll PM you with WHY I do.

You realize that Turbine didn't really make much off the Expansion Pack right?


The expansion pack came with something like 60 days free. At $13 a month, that puts the price at somewhere around $26 which coincidentally enough is about the same price as the expansion pack!


imagine that.


As for the expansion pack itself.. as I said.. there are factors beyond what you know. Just look at the amount of people who are no longer even WITH Turbine.. things happened over the course of the creation of the expansion pack... things that really affect Turbine's ability to create the expansion pack in a timely manner.. do I agree with it? No. I feel it was poorly handled. But that isn't the point. The point is that Frelorn especially will do everything he can to get things right. While it cannot be immediate, I believe he will try VERY hard to put things in order.

Stick to the issue. There is a memory leak in this game, regardless of system configurations, this should not be happening. This bug has been around since DM. Decal in general used to make this leak worse. I really don't think it's anyone but Turbine's fault at this moment. They close the thread because everyone did not stick to topic. This issue could have been resolved if people just tried to help instead of bicker and argue the facts and threaten to get their ways.


If you have a personal issue with your kids, do you talk to them or shout at them and downgrade and humiliate them? I know it's not exactly the same thing, but this is exactly what has happened.


Start coming up with RESOLUTIONS!


I say start a new thread and start putting everyone’s system configurations, driver versions and where in the game...the crashes seem to happen most.


See if we can all identify this issue, maybe it's a certain texture in the game that makes the client crash? Did you think maybe it could be a strictly Direct X issue, since the error seems to crash Direct x?


Maybe there is something we can all do to help this go away and solve this ponder of Turbine.


If they did not have an interest to keep this game going they would pull the plug like AC2. They are interested in resolving this. So let’s help them!!!

not a bad idea Lil-Blub..


although I don't know how easy it will be to accomplish because in th epast, we've trie dto do similar things for Decal and ended up with so many BAD reports, that it made the good reports get burried.


regardless.. you're right that the memory leak has been around since at LEAST DM.. probably has always been there. It just gets amplified with the latest stuff.