So really lifetank is turning into eltank. If you really wanted to make this a non ucm tool why dont you do the same thing eltank did and make it to where you have to hit a key every 5 mins and take log from pks out and log on death?

 

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This has been answered elsewhere in the post. Neither of these are effective ways of curbing UCM.

 

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^ actually I'd disagree with you there, Slightly. It removes the ease of UCM from the non enlightened.

<< This has been answered elsewhere in the post. Neither of these are effective ways of curbing UCM. >>


Some ideas, some of which are probably not doable:


1. A form pops up from time to time asking for yo confirm a word or phrase (which is random), combat functions disable after 1 minute if the phrase is not entered. On an incorrect entry, give two more tries before disabling.


2. disable auto-targeting of monsters/characters.


3. Require to start combat a press of the attack key.


If we sit down and brainstorm it we could probably come up with a list of several more options that could be explored.

 

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You can make it hard to UCM with ElTank or LifeTank, but I do not think you can make it impossible while still keeping the plugin useful for ACM. Most ways to detect if someone is at keyboard that are not annyoing to hell after an hour or so can be countered by just another plugin/program.

Exactly. Plus, any effective effort is going to have to come from Turbine and the Decal devs.

 

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A large part of the reason we felt it was appropriate to do this, was to show Turbine and everyone else that we wanted to support their efforts to step up support to the playerbase... but like Para has pointed out, testing or banning for breaking the Code of Conduct is NOT our job, nor should we have do anything to to Turbine's job for them IMO. The Admin Detection wasn't a decision that was taken lightly, nor was it something we came to terms with overnight. There was much debate between all of us and I was extremely reluctant to finally release it that night... I knew we were going to catch hell for it but..


I believe Turbine will do what they say, obviously since we took a huge step already. It's their turn to step up to the plate and swing, I hope they'll come through. I agree the feature was helpful or useful in the correct situation, but it was being abused to give people a (somewhat false) feeling of security or even assisting them in evading bans.


So, I apologize for those who are angry at our actions... but it's still interesting to see those who didn't use the alert for the wrong reasons aren't the ones who're upset. IMO it's time you learn how to play the game without hitting start and leaving the house or unsub. You agreed to follow those rules when you entered your credit card number, all we're meerly doing is assisting you to stay on the path of goodness


The plugin itself hasn't changed... it's still going strong with more emphasis on helping the Melee and Archer toons. The next release, as Para has mentioned above, will be one to look forward to... hopefully we can bring LTxi into a more modern light with some of the new features Decal has introduced with D3D rendering!


Thanks,

-C

 

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Been my experience that it had no effect. All that happens is that people are told to install Eltank and one of 'ELtank UCM protection code defeaters'.


A person that can install and get Decal and Eltank working does not have any problem with --> You need to install one more plugin to UCM with Eltank.


Cynical Yula does not think that this change to Lifetank will have much long term effect. Lifetank will end up like Eltank. Install Lifetank and ...

"Cynical Yula does not think that this change to Lifetank will have much long term effect. Lifetank will end up like Eltank. Install Lifetank and ..."


I agree it will have no long term effect. But LifeTank is not ElTank. LifeTank was built for UCM in mind. If someone was UCM'ing, there were probably running LifeTank, not ElTank. LifeTank devs didnt care about UCMing with LifeTank. At least ElGarL tried to prevent UCMing with ElTank by putting in some sort of measure. Not true with LifeTank. From what I hear, the only reason the admin detection was removed from LifeTank was because of pressure from Turbine, not because the plug-in's devs wanted to adhere to the CoC.

Then you need to pay more attention and try reading all the fact before posting your drivel. There was no pressure... so again, think again and stop posting until then, thanks.


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-C

 

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