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Title: Pirate in Pajamas
Posts: 9
Registered: 2002-9-3 17:29:28
Not like it matters because it doesn't even seem like the envoys care about or pay attention to the game anymore. Also, there will be a new plugin or add on that will have this feature very soon, it's inevitable.


And I found this funny:


"...and the LifeTankXI Development Team were not happy with the previous state of the plugin."


Tank should have never been released to the public, the old developers were teh best! I doubt it would have ever been the intention of the old developers to take away this feature, who is developing tank now?

 

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_Swordz_  1 star
Posts: 96
Registered: 2002-9-3 22:04:44
There are other non-decal based admin detection application that can be used alongside Lifetank which work really well.


When I used to macro, I never liked the Lifetank admin detection (was never very reliable, and seemed to miss Envoys a lot).


Plus, even if you have admin detection, if you are really UCM'ing (out of the house), there isn't much you can do to save yourself from a ban. Even with the option of being able to talk through your character via IRC controls, and id objects, etc, if they ask you for something more specific, like run to point x, turn around, jump up, run to point y, then walk back to point x, you'd be screwed.


This shouldn't change macroing too much. Envoys don't ban, and if you get ban, come up with some lame excuse like you didn't see the +Envoy in front of the envoys name, so you thought it was someone administrating a fake UCM test.

 

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Chef_Wubbie  2 stars
Posts: 471
Registered: 2002-7-11 05:32:39
OMG so this is what it looks like when you take the addicts pipe away. WOW!


Decal is not the problem, please stop beating the dead horse.

Plugins are not the problem, please please stop flogging that poor dead horse.


The problem is the end user, and what they do.


No one forced you to use LifeTank, and if Para and the others want to change it, you really can't say anything about it. Your getting way more than you paid for it.


Turbine expanded the EO's to shut the whiners up. Its a common theme. If you whine and cry long enough Turbine does something. 1 word - Dagger.


I was thrilled with there being 3 EOs and 3 POTBs. It got 99% of the macroers out of places I wanted to hunt or explore. Now that these people are pulling down stupid amounts of XP everyone else is yelling hey wheres mine. And you complained enough that Turbines gonna open up spots in the EO for you... with bans. Enjoy.


Boo hoo hoo... shut up and play the game or quit. Stop taking potshots at Para and the others. They made a decision. If you don't like it... go write your own plugin.

If you want to UCM no ones gonna hold your hand any more and make it easy.

You can still do it, but now theres no one to blame if you get caught but yourself.


Getting to 275 is not what its supposed to be all about.

There was ment to be exploration beyond waiting till the patch tree updated to tell you what to do next.

Its time we stop blaming Decal, Plugins, Para, the moon, Turbine, and anything else... the only ones at fault are us. What you do is only a reflection on yourself, just because you used someone elses tools to do it... its still all on you.


I mean I thought this was all just a game and the plugins were to help us, not do everything for us. Whats next the plugin to tell you to go to the bathroom?

Grow up, stop whining.

Maybe learn to press some buttons and kill a monster with your own hands.


Para - I'm intrested to see what this might lead to... I might even try to figure Lifetank out again... I'm a simple wubbie.. I just use ElTank... I get confused easy... To many buttons in Life for me


wubbie - Tradeskiller Main... ACM sometimes... UCM sometimes except for me the C is for cooking...

 

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I said months ago adding more features including admin avoidance would have been one of my goals. I tried to make it happen and even bought a domain to feature the development of many many more things than what has currently came out in this "version" of the plugin.


No, SPK was developing under the intentions to keep admin detection alive and kicking. Even made it IRC based so scripts (which many I have used) could be shot through into the IRC chat room warning everyone and allowing control of charactors.


Keeping in mind at the time... charactor control was not very robust. I could see it becoming something much bigger had I went my way with it. The particular dev team did not see a point in developing it due to Paraduck and C'Relic making this version.


Too bad and so sad that I quit or I would create a version that the "darkside" of combat macroing would use. (UCM's).


Everyone knows the risks involved. Everyone knows that this version still works except admin detection.


Now a plugin to detect admins should be made including charactor control. Have it run independant outside of decal so that no one has "control" of it.


That is all it is about.Control. Always has been and this post proves my point I tried to show those in the past. Everyone doubted me, I eventually realized this games gonna be dead soon anyways and found better things to do with my time and my life. I'm actually suprised I even read some of this. Either way.. It does'nt matter. I have no loss in these words or statements. Fire away guys.
-Zalliun-  1 star
Posts: 89
Registered: 2002-1-30 14:07:47
to little to late as usual.


It really dont matter at this point , ever since the first attempt to distupt admin detection i dont think anyone that macroes alot been relying on decal anymore to detect admins.

 

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Kestrina  1 star
Title: Got Kyn?
Posts: 50
Registered: 2003-4-16 20:11:43
Keep this thread ON TOPIC, keep Personal Attacks and Baiting out of this thread or it will be locked.

 

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Faradn
Posts: 45
Registered: 2002-3-25 15:53:56
"I said months ago adding more features including admin avoidance would have been one of my goals. I tried to make it happen and even bought a domain to feature the development of many many more things than what has currently came out in this "version" of the plugin.


No, SPK was developing under the intentions to keep admin detection alive and kicking. Even made it IRC based so scripts (which many I have used) could be shot through into the IRC chat room warning everyone and allowing control of charactors.


Keeping in mind at the time... charactor control was not very robust. I could see it becoming something much bigger had I went my way with it. The particular dev team did not see a point in developing it due to Paraduck and C'Relic making this version.


Too bad and so sad that I quit or I would create a version that the "darkside" of combat macroing would use. (UCM's).


Everyone knows the risks involved. Everyone knows that this version still works except admin detection.


Now a plugin to detect admins should be made including charactor control. Have it run independant outside of decal so that no one has "control" of it.


That is all it is about.Control. Always has been and this post proves my point I tried to show those in the past. Everyone doubted me, I eventually realized this games gonna be dead soon anyways and found better things to do with my time and my life. I'm actually suprised I even read some of this. Either way.. It does'nt matter. I have no loss in these words or statements. Fire away guys."


HAHAHAHAHA


LOL


Oh man...


If you had the ability to make your own version you would have. Why would someone else working on the source code stop you? Do you honestly expect people to kiss your butt and beg you to work on it? LOL


All hat no cattle.

 

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I just don't get some of you people. Turbine has taken the hard line before and whiners like you either unsubbed or adapted, it's called survival of the fittest. Now a Decal Plugin Dev says they are taking Admin Detection out of their plugin and you raising the rafters with your cries reminds me of the people who whined when they took beer sales out of baseball games because the beer drinkers were just too much to handle. You made your beds, now sleep in them. You have been exposed! The hue and cry of those "wronged" is music to my ears.


UCM'ing has been a sickness that has been allowed for too long and I say better late than never.


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Chainz_TD  1 star
Title: Retired.
Posts: 95
Registered: 2001-12-29 20:25:49
why flame bane VI, you're not high level enough to cast Inferno's Bane?


and at this point, who cares honestly, all the people who wanted 275 got there. They just have rerolls who they want to level also. Not a big diff from 220 and 275

 

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