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Chainz_TD  1 star
Title: Retired.
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"IMO it's time you learn how to play the game without hitting start and leaving the house or unsub"


Maybe its time some people learn how to play without any 3rd party plugins at all?

 

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Enoch_VN  1 star
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"IMO it's time you learn how to play the game without hitting start and leaving the house or unsub"


Maybe its time some people learn how to play without any 3rd party plugins at all?


That would be boring as hell
Tiviee  1 star
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Identify who they are, would be interesting to know, is it 1 person who objects, or a group vote or just some sore loser who objects. What happens if you don't comply, what Nazi part of Decal team can make such decisions?


both Turbine and the LifeTankXI Development Team were not happy with the previous state of the plugin


Hopefully someone will have a admin detect program separately made, I wonder if Quack will work.


Who the hell are Decal people that they think they can dominate this game, the game is not made in their view. I can't believe turbine cares 1 cent if program is changed or not it is just some b&&&& in the decal team making a fuss.


Now the whinners and trouble makes can have their fun reporting people as they can't do anything better with their lives.


maybe it is Elgar becuase he is a sore loser that liftank is better than tank.
Drakier  4 stars
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Wait.. hold on there.. who said anything about the Decal team?


We didn't have anything to do with this. Paraduck came to US and said that the old LifeTank was to be killed. Since he is the new developer we complied with his request as we would do with any plugins whose developers tell us to disable old versions.


So before you start talking trash about the Decal Devs dominating this game or anything dealing with thie LifeTank thing, you need to get the facts.
Zedon
Posts: 10
Registered: 2001-8-23 09:48:07
Good Job. There is really no other good reason for the admin alarm than to fight UCM checks. Since UCM is against the rules it should have never beenin the prog. Weird how so many people are getting their panties in a bunch over this. If they are really UCM the alarm won't help them anyway.
Lil-Blub  2 stars
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Keep up the responses, this is good.


Lots of requests for Source Code and such in PM's.


I will get it and post it back up for download if it's not available.


Raretracker is a custom feature in the current Lifetank. Pointless to add since there is a stand alone.


Thanks for posting all the code flaws in your release notes. We all do appreciate that, helps make our releases faster going.


You all definatly adhere to the CoC. We can see that. Grats to you! You should be proud of that FACT.


Anyhow, Decal and Plug-in writers have really lost the facts and focus behind why Decal was orginally. First it was open source.. then they yank that... Then it's controled by KillBit, then...then... then... I guess they like to yank things.


As such... I have a couple people who want to help with a new release and I'm still in my consideration mode. Depends on how far and fast they want to move.


I don't play AC and I really lost my passion for the game. I don't believe I will even re-sub, If I need testers I got those. Easy to obtain.


Good Luck C'Relic and Paraduck on your CoC version. I wish you the best in your plugin and donations. I just hope no one will continue to download a restricted version as Lifetank "was" and "will be again" a Unattended Combat Macro.
Lil-Blub  2 stars
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Also a quote from your own LifeElTank site:


Welcome to LifeTank XI

Written by Marc

Saturday, 08 July 2006


Welcome to the LifeTank XI Website. LifeTank is a Decal 3 plugin made for Asheron's Call: Throne of Destiny. LifeTank has many macro features while playing AC:TOD, such as Combat Assistance, Buffing, Looting, World Detection, and many others.


This plugin was originally programmed and designed by Spax/SpK of Wintersebb. Later on the source code was released and Xeon Xarid of Wintersebb began developing it, dubbed Lifetank X. After the release of Decal 3 Alpha 7, C'relic and Paraduck of MT decided to take on the task of developing the plugin, now called LifeTank XI.


Keep an eye on this site as we will be releasing fixes and updates to LifeTank frequently. We will also be using this site as a portal for other future plugins we plan to develop soon.


I will post the same disclaimer as ElgarL of ElTank from his website:


Because this site hosts a semi controversial plug-in does not mean we agree with griefing. We do agree with Macroing of many sorts, be it Bots or Drain/Combat. Although we ask any users of this site to do so with respect for other players of Asheron's Call.


Guidelines:


1. Don't heavily macro Dungeons that are frequented by players for the purpose of hunting.


2. LifeTank is NOT for Unattended use. Unattended use is officially against the CoC and we will not be held liable if you get banned from Asheron's Call due to violating this CoC


3. If you think your actions will have a detrimental affect to someone's playing pleasure, don't do it.

Last Updated ( Saturday, 08 July 2006 )
Crelic_MT  2 stars
Title: Poppy's Plaything
Posts: 454
Registered: 2003-5-4 14:17:39
I've swore up and down I was going to ignore you and let you die with the rest of the thread but... You're starting to tick me off.


I shouldn't have to say it again, but I will... The only people whining (and are doing exactly that) are mostly people from Darktide (which, again, isn't much different than what they do anyway). The ONLY thing removed from the plugin was the alarm, which was well known it wasn't that reliable anyway... and the plugin itself still works fine. Unfriendly Player finder/alarm works, as well as /tell notification to.


So, I honestly don't see what your big fuss is, seeing how you hate us and AC now and have unsubbed. If you'd read above, maybe you'd understand the reason we did this and why we aren't going to take it further than what we've done already.


-C

 

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Ashake  1 star
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Registered: 2002-5-12 12:11:44
Lil-Blub posted:

<snip> I don't play AC and I really lost my passion for the game. I don't believe I will even re-sub, If I need testers I got those. Easy to obtain.


Good Luck C'Relic and Paraduck on your CoC version. I wish you the best in your plugin and donations. I just hope no one will continue to download a restricted version as Lifetank "was" and "will be again" a Unattended Combat Macro.



And your final statement, sir, shows blatantly why this step was undertaken. Your total disregard for the Code of Conduct is clearly stated ... Since you, by your own admission, have lost your "passion for the game" why the hell are you going to bother to even consider revamping this program that was created for the SOLE purpose of circumventing the Code of Conduct all agree to when they create their account to play AC?


Many of us have managed to level our characters to the level they are without cheating ... yes, I said cheating. Any time you need to incorporate "anti-detection" within a program, it is designed for the purpose of allowing someone to cheat. Maybe it costs me some xp NOT to fellow in certain dungeons because the fellow is mainly made up of UCMs ... it's ok. Maybe it takes me a while longer to level my characters because of this ... it's ok too. But when these UCMs deliberately go into the "xp producing" dungeons others want to hunt and literally take them over, it's not ok for the REST of the playerbase who might want to hunt productively there.


I truly hope you do not display this level of callous selfishness in your real life, sir. It is this type of selfish disregard for others that frustrates many playing AC today ... and believe it or not, was a major cause for many leaving this game.

 

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Drakier  4 stars
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Ashake: I'm with you. It was the major contributing factor for me unsubbing my accounts as well.. although not AS directly related to UCM, it had a significant factor in my decision.

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