" I would say it could be remotely possible that Elgar could be watching reactions to his announcement as well, and making a final decision in the near future. The reason I mention this is there is NO mention of this at all on the Tank forums - and I'd certainly think a "final" announcement of this nature would surely be posted there of ALL places!


CR, with all due respect, it would be great if you could incorporate more user friendly interfaces into LT if that is what we'll be left with for a buffing/"finding" type of plug. I'm sorry, but it is not the most user friendly in the world to set up - which is why many don't care for it! "


http://eltank.homedns.org/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=6660


Posted the 14th.

 

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I would be willing to bet this is a temporary situation.


In fact, I am going to save this post and ask the mods to put it up as a legacy post in the future.

I respect Elgar and think he is an excellent programmer. He has always seemed to me respectful and intelligent. I wish him the best. I will not however be sorry to see El Tank go. Yes, it is an excellent program and one of the best written. The only problem with it is that it makes it far too easy for people to UCM. I am predicting that if El Tank goes that the UCM's will be cut in half. This could result in a lot of people leaving AC but personally that does not bother me. I believe the quality of the game will increase as a result of it.


I do not know Elgars motives but I would not be surprised if he thinks that as a result of his leaving that the population will go way down and this will hurt Turbine - thus proving his statement that he believes himself one of the reasons that this game has lasted so long.


I am curious to see what will happen.


~Duri

"I am predicting that if El Tank goes that the UCM's will be cut in half."


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I am predicting that if Eltank goes that the AC population will be cut by 85%, thus leading to the end of AC.


Eltank was and is an excellent enhancement tool for Asheron's Call. An all-in-one program. I have used it for years (and before you ask, I have NEVER UCM'd or even CM'd) and I wouldn't still be playing AC had I not had Eltank.


People who view it as evil because some decide to ABUSE the tool to UCM, are very short sighted individuals. Every good thing in life has it's ability to be abused. Shall we do away with all of them? Where do we start?

 

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Majielle: there were many plugins which did everything that ELTank did (minus the combat macroing) better than ELTank.


So the statement that you used ELTank for everything BUT the Combat Macro seems wierd.. considering the alternatives.


The only reason I know of people using ELTank specifically is for the combat features.


Now those plugins aren't all around anymore, so trying to find alternatives for some of the components may be difficult for now.. but in the past, there were many better options.

I believe most used it because of it's stability. On and off World filter and Character stats filter have had crashing issues, or bugs that were left unfixed for long periods. This resulted in not only Crashes, but unstable plugins and extended periods of plugins not working.


ELTank doesn't use any of those filters and allowed players to turn them all off, thereby creatign a more stable system. It was generally the first plugin to be up and running if a patch broke something, and the last to break because of some bug or change.


Add to that the fact it did everything, and it became the choice for many as the superior option.

Sure it didn't do some things in as much detail as more dedicated plugins (like Banditsight), but most players didn't want overly complex plugins. They wanted to remove the more mundane tasks via the simplest method.


Thats how I undertand it. It's what I wrote it for, and it seemed to catch on.

What alternatives?


I've been messing around with Alinco and the other plugins out there, and I have yet to either find, or figure out how to make them work as good as ElTank.


With Alinco, it seems that even after I set up all the "look for these items", when I open up a corpse I have to "manually loot" them. Now I did find that you can use DHC so I can set up F2, F3, and F4 to loot, load UST, then UST.


But unless I'm missing it, I don't see where you can "auto loot", much less "auto loot" and UST.


Further, I don't see an "auto heal" function in Alinco either.


Sure LifeTank does that, but IMO, LifeTank stinks for ACMing. There is no "buff only" that you can kick on when you want to run past a bunch of monster, and yet have it keep you healed. You have to "pause" it (Don't dare turn it off, because if you do, it will rebuff you fully, regardless of the time left on your buffs).


Now I do like Alincos USTing better than ElTank, but by and large, ElTank was a nice "one stop" program that you could do everything with. It was the ULTIMATE ACM tool, and although you could use it for UCMing (with another "helper program" it sucked for that purpose (LifeTank is much better for UCMing ... or "run on a second PC and just watch for +Envoys on the other monitor from time to time).


Sorry, but I just do see a combination of, much less a single one, programs that beat ElTank for "easy, at the keyboard, looting, usting, killing, ACMing".

It will bother the hell out of you when they shut down AC because there isn't enough of a player base to support the game...idiot.

 

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Chazcon,


I hope this means you will be leaving.


Like I said if people like you leave then I believe the quality of the game will improve. Even if the game does end (which I doubt it will) at least it will be more enjoyable until then.


~Duri

People like me? I thought you were talking about UCM'rs.


So I guess you can lump anyone who catches you making a fool of yourself into the 'people who should leave' category.


Have fun playing with yourself.

 

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