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should transgender Birth Certificates show male or female or what? [Locked] |
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Maybe I'm going about this the wrong way. I'll try this again. What does having sex on a birth certificate add? Nothing. If you have actual, real security concerns... why not use finger printing (some do) or a retinal scan? Since sex only eliminates 50% of the people who could commit the fraud.
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Webscar Title: /Yiffs in Hell [face_furry]
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It may be a bit insensitive but when I think of your gender I go by your genetics... Easy way to tell is by the fact you are born with a dick or vagina... If you want to look for a clearer answer go with the X-Y chromosomes, yes?
If you're male genetically thenthat's what you are.
If you identify as a female, then enjoy yourself... But you. Annoy change your genes
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HeartView Title: Be right back...
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If it eliminates 50% of the fraud then I'd say that's a very significant reason to leave it on there.
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HeartView posted:
If it eliminates 50% of the fraud then I'd say that's a very significant reason to leave it on there.
Okay I get it, you're trolling. We're done here.
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HeartView Title: Be right back...
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Allmightybob_MLF posted:
HeartView posted:
If it eliminates 50% of the fraud then I'd say that's a very significant reason to leave it on there.
Okay I get it, you're trolling. We're done here.
How the hell is that trolling?
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Chogram Posts: 945
Registered: 2001-8-23 02:52:32
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When do you actually need your birth certificate anyway?
Drivers license and social security card will get you anything that you have ever wanted.
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HeartView Title: Be right back...
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Chogram posted:
When do you actually need your birth certificate anyway?
Drivers license and social security card will get you anything that you have ever wanted.
To get a SS card you will need a birth certificate. In order to get credit at any underwritten institution you will need a SSN.
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Gaevren Title: Wat do?
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Registered: 2004-9-15 09:29:36
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should transgender Birth Certificates show male or female or what? |
You're right there are other combinations due to abnormalities, but those are rare and don't a lot of them involve ambiguous genitalia? I don't know, tbh.
As for what it adds to a birth certificate- the whole point is to track genealogy and family lines and keep such records for whatever purpose (tax records, etc). The govt. might not care if you have a male or female baby, but if you neglect to include that information on a birth certificate it can create confusion down the line when you're trying to sort out who begat who. There are plenty of gender neutral names, Leslie for instance, and nowadays more and more names are crossing the line into neutrality. So is this Leslie a mother or a father?
It's also just one more way of helping to visually identify someone, especially when they don't have a photo ID (first time getting a license, or whatever). They have to bring in more than one form of ID, and if someone waltzed in with boobs, high heels and a purse and said "My name is Alexandra", but the birth cert said it should be a male with the name of Alexander, what would you think? Transgender or fraudster? And how are you going to determine the difference? There is no real way to do so.
So I am still in favor of making supplement forms to help alleviate the issue. Rather, I certainly wouldn't oppose it if it came up.
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Gaevren Title: Wat do?
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HeartView posted:
Chogram posted:
When do you actually need your birth certificate anyway?
Drivers license and social security card will get you anything that you have ever wanted.
To get a SS card you will need a birth certificate. In order to get credit at any underwritten institution you will need a SSN.
You also have to bring more than one form of non-photo ID with you when you get your first license or picture ID. And they almost always require that a birth cert be one of those documents.
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Chogram Posts: 945
Registered: 2001-8-23 02:52:32
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should transgender Birth Certificates show male or female or what? |
HeartView posted:
Chogram posted:
When do you actually need your birth certificate anyway?
Drivers license and social security card will get you anything that you have ever wanted.
To get a SS card you will need a birth certificate. In order to get credit at any underwritten institution you will need a SSN.
My kids both got their SS cards between 3-6 months after they were born(have to have the SS number for insurance)
I though that was pretty nationwide?
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