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HeartView Title: Be right back...
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Registered: 2001-12-20 08:11:56
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should transgender Birth Certificates show male or female or what? |
Allmightybob_MLF posted:
HeartView posted:
Because it is an identity document. Your sex is part of your identity.
So is religion and skin colour! Why not record those too?
You are not born religious. And the color of your skin often changes from birth. Some birth certificates include race, though.
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Gaevren Title: Wat do?
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Registered: 2004-9-15 09:29:36
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
I got a legal name change when I was a kid. any time I need to identify myself I have to have that name change form. I dont see what sex change would be different.
Yes that's where I got the idea of the supplement form. I've never had a name change apart from my last name when I got married, but I know if you do change your name you have to have those documents to track the changes.
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Surge_MT Posts: 213
Registered: 2001-5-9 11:10:00
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HeartView posted:
Banelord_FF posted:
Does a dude who trades in his  for a vayjay also change that Y chromosome to an X chromosome and does a woman who gets a  added change on of those X chromosomes to a Y chromosome?
No, not even with hormone therapy.
Then simply replace Gender with: XX or XY on the birth certificate.
Regarding whether it even needs to be on your current ID, It's not like the bouncer at the bar is going to grab your junk when he checks your license to verify your gender (though the TSA might). Even more obvious clues (hair color, eye color, weight) can be trivially changed with dye, colored contacts, and change in diet. You could argue that having all of that information on your ID serves as little purpose towards identification as your gender.
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Fozzie_Bear Posts: 2,490
Registered: 2001-12-20 01:43:43
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Date Posted:
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should transgender Birth Certificates show male or female or what? |
or!
just to be exciting
how about we dont change a frigin thing and instead of pissing away money on a special interest's pet peeve we spend it on feeding people
I know, what a friggin concept
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BritonGuy Title: Serious Business
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Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
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Date Posted:
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How about extraterrestrial. We could just call them moon people and be done with all efforts to make them feel like pariahs.
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HeartView Title: Be right back...
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Registered: 2001-12-20 08:11:56
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should transgender Birth Certificates show male or female or what? |
Surge_MT posted:
Then simply replace Gender with: XX or XY on the birth certificate.
Regarding whether it even needs to be on your current ID, It's not like the bouncer at the bar is going to grab your junk when he checks your license to verify your gender (though the TSA might). Even more obvious clues (hair color, eye color, weight) can be trivially changed with dye, colored contacts, and change in diet. You could argue that having all of that information on your ID serves as little purpose towards identification as your gender.
The original concept of a birth certificate was purely for registration and recognition - "we had this baby". It is relatively recent that the document has turned into a form of identification (mostly because of political immigration and citizenship issues). The problem is that there needs to be enough information on there that two people can't reliably claim the same birth identity, which is why they often include parents' original names and other facts that can't be reliably claimed by someone else.
I don't think there is a better solution than keeping the original and amending it with changes or new identifying documents.
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HeartView Title: Be right back...
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
or!
just to be exciting
how about we dont change a frigin thing and instead of pissing away money on a special interest's pet peeve we spend it on feeding people
I know, what a friggin concept 
Fact is, even if we were overflowing with extra money we wouldn't do that as a whole, but individuals are welcome to.
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Fozzie_Bear Posts: 2,490
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Date Posted:
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no excuse for throwing cash away that could be better spent
as the Jesus Christ of the liberal world once said
Obama: "When times are tough, you tighten your belts, You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage. You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college."
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HeartView Title: Be right back...
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That's exactly why most people follow people they consider visionaries in some regard. Most people are weak, they know they're weak, and so they listen to people that say things they feel are correct even when they can't consistently act upon their "message". It has always been this way. People are sheep looking for a shepherd because they're too afraid or lazy to actually do the right thing without being told to do it first.
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Fozzie_Bear Posts: 2,490
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its always the same thing really, we should cut spending on this or that but NOT my particular special interest because... well... its my special interest.
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