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AgzntOrange2  2 stars
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15642294

Joann Prinzivalli says she believes a person's sexual identity is determined by their mind rather than their genitals
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A group of transgender men and women want New York City to make it easier to change the "M" or "F" on their birth certificates. What makes a man or a woman, and why do governments care?

 

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AliHajiSheik  1 star
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It's a birth certificate, not a currently certificate.

 

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Dark_EternalFF  4 stars
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AliHajiSheik posted:

It's a birth certificate, not a currently certificate.



Yeah, I ah...gotta go with this.

 

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AgzntOrange2  2 stars
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"The standard leaves little room for individual interpretation. By simply looking at a baby's genitalia, an individual is able to determine its sex."

 

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Dark_EternalFF posted:

AliHajiSheik posted:

It's a birth certificate, not a currently certificate.



Yeah, I ah...gotta go with this.

 

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Velvet_Ice  1 star
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I think the birth certificate should be left alone but amended. Like a car title that is being transferred to someone else. The front stays the same and the back is where all the legal stuff happens. Get a doctors note, fill out a couple forms and be done with it. Its not like these people are going back and forth on what gender they are going to be for the day.

 

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HeartView  4 stars
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Dark_EternalFF posted:

AliHajiSheik posted:

It's a birth certificate, not a currently certificate.



Yeah, I ah...gotta go with this.



This. It would get too freaking insane to do it any other way. You were a boy/girl at birth and became whatever you are today. You cannot change the past.

 

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Velvet_Ice  1 star
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HeartView posted:

Dark_EternalFF posted:

AliHajiSheik posted:

It's a birth certificate, not a currently certificate.



Yeah, I ah...gotta go with this.



This. It would get too freaking insane to do it any other way. You were a boy/girl at birth and became whatever you are today. You cannot change the past.



Ok, but what about people who do actually go through with the gender reassignment surgery? They are going to legally have different genitalia but by your reasoning, since they were born one gender that document needs to stay the same.

As of right now, my understanding is if they go through the surgery, they get to change the birth certificate. I could be wrong on this. But you disagree with it being able to be changed?

 

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Fozzie_Bear  4 stars
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all trannys should have to have a big T on their foreheads so you know what you're getting into right from the get-go

 

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Velvet_Ice posted:

Ok, but what about people who do actually go through with the gender reassignment surgery? They are going to legally have different genitalia but by your reasoning, since they were born one gender that document needs to stay the same.



Exactly. That document represents what you were at birth. It's not a passport, it's a birth certificate. The original needs to stay on file and be unchanged unless there is a mistake on there. Modifying your genitalia 30 years later does not mean your birth certificate was incorrect.

 

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