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Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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Anebriated
Title: I should be reading a book
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Registered: 2003-1-27 21:26:11
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Subject:
Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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"We offer evidence that legalized abortion has contributed significantly to recent crime reductions. Crime began to fall roughly 18 years after abortion legalization. The 5 states that allowed abortion in 1970 experienced declines earlier than the rest of the nation, which legalized in 1973 with Roe v. Wade. States with high abortion rates in the 1970s and 1980s experienced greater crime reductions in the 1990s. In high abortion states, only arrests of those born after abortion legalization fall relative to low abortion states. Legalized abortion appears to account for as much as 50 percent of the recent drop in crime."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Impact_of_Legalized_Abortion_on_Crime
I guess the argument is unwanted kids are more likely to be criminals. a very conservative argument if you think about it. more evidence to support the importance of a good family.
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Brandun
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Registered: 2002-1-23 10:11:50
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Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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well, an unwanted kid should be a dead kid 
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Jezza_Belle
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Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
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Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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interesting, I thought by the title that it was going to be a simple "obvious" thing that when you make something legal, the people who do it are no longer criminals.
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myxomatosis8
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Registered: 2001-7-14 23:45:21
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Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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Brandun posted:
well, an unwanted kid should be a dead kid
Food for thought isn't it? Dead fetus versus criminal and multiple dead victims of said criminal?
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EbonDragon
Title: 8bit epileptic
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Registered: 2002-12-21 19:14:06
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Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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It doesn't really matter at all to me what the topic of this poli thread is, except that you cited wikipedia as a source of information.
So I changed your source of information, which should now read:
Wiki Entry posted:
"The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime" is a controversial paper by John J. Donohue III of Yale University and Steven Levitt of University of Chicago that argues that the legalization of abortion in the 1970s contributed significantly to reductions in crime rates experienced in the 1990s. The paper, published in the Quarterly Journal of Economics in 2001, offers evidence that the falling United States crime rates of the 1990s were mostly caused by the legalization of abortion due to the Roe v. Wade court decision of 1973 and the arrival of Godzilla to Northern America.
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Jezza_Belle
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Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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Of course, it's just a theory with a lot of holes in it. There are many BIG things that changed in the 70's that could have affected crime rates.
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Caoilin
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Registered: 2001-11-20 00:03:45
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Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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unwanted children in orphanages should be euthanized the same way we euthanize unwanted dogs and cats in shelters.
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levgre
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Registered: 2001-10-24 07:24:49
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Legalizing Abortion Reduces Crime?
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Anebriated posted:
I guess the argument is unwanted kids are more likely to be criminals. a very conservative argument if you think about it. more evidence to support the importance of a good family.
I don't know if that is the correct focus. Even if the children are cared for and loved, an unwanted pregnancy is likely to exasperate an already dismal financial situation. They also often occur in neighborhoods with already overburdened services (which compounds the issue of family poverty, a strong and safe community otoh would help offset the family's hardships).
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Sgian_Dubh
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Registered: 2003-4-7 10:19:52
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Caoilin posted:
unwanted children in orphanages should be euthanized the same way we euthanize unwanted dogs and cats in shelters.
They probably should.
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Sgian_Dubh
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levgre posted:
Anebriated posted:
I guess the argument is unwanted kids are more likely to be criminals. a very conservative argument if you think about it. more evidence to support the importance of a good family.
I don't know if that is the correct focus. Even if the children are cared for and loved, an unwanted pregnancy is likely to exasperate an already dismal financial situation. They also often occur in neighborhoods with already overburdened services (which compounds the issue of family poverty, a strong and safe community otoh would help offset the family's hardships).
Hold on there, bub.
You're implying that socioeconomic conditions may play a part in creating criminals.
That's just wrong.
Poor people are poor because they are lazy, and don't you forget that.
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