I don't know anything about the military or the rank system they use, but my guess is officers would be the smartest out of the whole bunch, since they actually had to learn military history and all that stuff in a classroom.

I have no idea how a person could really be an effective soldier if they never bothered to learn from history, but I suppose the grunts don't need to be smart, only disciplined and ferocious.

 

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In prison the Nazi Low Riders use the Lightning Bolts as their marking tattoo.

 

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why is this even news? last i heard the SS was disbanded. why does it matter if some other group wants to use a similar logo?

 

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I looked all over the net I didn't see this as a Marine Corps Sniper School logo anywhere, found plenty of other ones though.

 

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And Gene for one, is one of the biggest jews you will ever meet. I guess he is a nazi too.

 

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wow yeah, you're right. I see no difference between that kiss logo and the SS bolts symbol.

/sarcasm

 

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only half nazi i guess

 

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Ignorance is bliss, my Dad was not in Kiss he was in the Marines in WWII, and I am pretty sure he would not appreciate seeing some of his fellow Marines using that symbol.n Nor I believe would any WWII veterans that I have known over the years.

Here is a bit on Kiss history for you.


Icon 102 posted 28 September, 2002 05:41 PM Edit/Delete post Reply with quote I talked about this a bit in my book about the band, Black Diamond (how's that for a plug?). [Wink] As Silas mentioned above, it had more to do with style than meaning.

The band was looking for a good logo back in 1973 - one that would stick in people's minds - and the "SS" symbol certainly was one that people would remember. Ace Frehley, the lead guitarist, was the one who came up with the logo featuring the "lightning bolt" lettering, which was then modified by guitarist Paul Stanley. It has been mentioned recently (most noticably in the 1997 book, KISS THIS!) that Frehley was/is a collector of Nazi artifacts; even so, there is really no basis to believe that Frehley - hired into the band by Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley, both of whom are Jewish (and of which Simmons' mother had been a concentration camp survivor) - would have been influential enough to convince the others to become "nazis." All evidence points to the band using it merely for shock value alone (perhaps also as a reference to a tough, biker image, as the symbol was commonly seen in the late 1960s/early 19702 in association with bikers . . . or at least the image of bikers). There was certainly nothing in the music to suggest that the band ever were nazis, either.

Loud, silly, perhaps arrogant even, could be argued, but hardly nazis. [Big Grin]

The logo, surprisingly enough, never caused problems for the band when selling their albums in West Germany UNTIL 1980. The band was just about to tour West Germany when a whole brouhaha started over a political campaign in the country that used the Nazi "SS" symbol. When the politician fined for using it complained that KISS was able to use a similar image with no ruckus, the government called for the banning of KISS' albums.

KISS and Casablanca didn't want to lose out on what appeared to be a successful tour, and bent over backwards to settle the situation by thereafter releasing the catalog of albums with a revised KISS logo -- this one featuring what fans and collectors commonly refer to as "backward Z's."

 

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Nazis never hurt anyone, good bunch of guys

 

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