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-Mithan-  4 stars
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Reapist posted:

I certainly do. If not, maybe they want to cover children?

http://news.yahoo.com/sandra-fluke-says-ru sh-limbaughs-apology-doesnt-change-160325037--abc-news.html



Unless the Insurance companies grab your penis and stick it in some woman's vagina, I don't see how they are responsible for paying for your kids.


Now, I believe in Birth Control being cheap and available to all. The earth's current situation and the amount of unloved trash running around the planet causing crime and such is a prime example of why this needs to exist, but I don't see forcing it into Health Insurance as the answer.

 

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Banelord_FF  2 stars
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Hyperimiator posted:

Banelord_FF posted:

Hyperimiator posted:

Banelord_FF posted:

That should be up to the company providing your insurance. If the Catholic church, as stupid as I think their belief is, does not want it as part of the policy they provide to their employees, then that is their right. If an employee does not like it, they are free to purchase an individual policy or seek employment elsewhere.



Yeah but it is ok for them to take federal money for "faith based" federal programs.

I got ya, prejudice is ok as long as it is religious prejudice.



There is this little document called the Bill of Rights that protects religious freedom. IMO the Catholic doctrine has no basis in scripture but they still have the right to have that belief and the govt doesn't have the right to tell them they can't have that belief.



My tax money is used to further their belief, I guess that is ok in your book though.

Cool for Muslims to take US Tax money and call for be headings then too, right?


Hyperbole FTL.

 

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_Alexandra_  2 stars
Title: Lady of the Spatula
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Registered: 2000-6-12 10:58:38
Rhodoman posted:

What possible legal justification can there be for requiring an employer buy bulk health insurance ?

If all they did was paid the employee what they are worth and let them shop for it themselves, the whole thing would be cheaper and easier.

Lots less waste, too.

Rho



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Ferrydust  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-4 20:32:54
Since health insurance companies cover viagra I think they should also cover birth control.

 

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_Alexandra_  2 stars
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Ferrydust posted:

Since health insurance companies cover viagra I think they should also cover birth control.

 

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Hyperimiator  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
In Hawaii they will proscribe Viagra but they do not subsidize with a co-pay.

If you looked at the list it is the Repub states which seem to pay more, because they don't mess with companies, who are more valuable than people.

 

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Hyperimiator  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
Banelord_FF posted:

Hyperimiator posted:

Banelord_FF posted:

Hyperimiator posted:

Banelord_FF posted:

That should be up to the company providing your insurance. If the Catholic church, as stupid as I think their belief is, does not want it as part of the policy they provide to their employees, then that is their right. If an employee does not like it, they are free to purchase an individual policy or seek employment elsewhere.



Yeah but it is ok for them to take federal money for "faith based" federal programs.

I got ya, prejudice is ok as long as it is religious prejudice.



There is this little document called the Bill of Rights that protects religious freedom. IMO the Catholic doctrine has no basis in scripture but they still have the right to have that belief and the govt doesn't have the right to tell them they can't have that belief.



My tax money is used to further their belief, I guess that is ok in your book though.

Cool for Muslims to take US Tax money and call for be headings then too, right?



Hyperbole FTL.



No, not really,

3/4/05 10:51am Subject: This is WRONG dead wrong and why Faith Based Initiatives using federal money is wrong!

The vote was majorly partisan, yay for the Republican bullies!

House OKs Job Training Bill with Faith Provision
By Joanne Kenen | March 2, 2005

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday approved legislation on job training, despite Democratic objections to a provision that would allow faith-based programs to use religion as a hiring criterion.


The legislation, approved by a 220-200 vote, builds on a 1998 law that consolidated many job programs and turned them into grants to states. That law simplified job training for many by creating "one-stop" career training and employment centers.

Similar legislation bogged down last year after Senate Democrats objected to the House language on faith programs.

Mostly Republican supporters of the bill -- which consolidates three major adult job training programs and updates other employment education programs -- said it would make worker education more efficient and let states use resources more wisely.

"The backbone of a strong economy is a well-trained and highly-skilled workforce," said Ohio Republican Rep. John Boehner, chairman of the Education and the Workforce Committee. "It is absolutely critical for workers to have the education and skills necessary to adapt to new opportunities and move into higher-wage jobs."

The United States spends about $5 billion a year on job training, with roughly $3 billion spent on these three adult programs, a Boehner aide said.

The White House backs the bill and President Bush has spoken in favor of the faith-based language, which would permit groups to consider a potential employee's religion.

Most Democrats opposed the bill because of that language but a bid by Virginia Democrat Rep. Robert Scott to cut it out failed.

Democrats said the measure was a step backward to an era of discrimination and was unnecessary as faith-based groups can receive federal funds for job training as long as they do not discriminate in hiring.

"Employment discrimination is ugly," said Scott. "ou can put lipstick on a pig but you can't pass it off as a beauty queen and you can't dress up 'We don't hire Catholics and Jews' with poll-tested semantics and euphemisms and pass it off as anything other than ugly discrimination."


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Rhodoman  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-6-14 21:02:19
_Alexandra_ posted:

Rhodoman posted:

What possible legal justification can there be for requiring an employer buy bulk health insurance ?

If all they did was paid the employee what they are worth and let them shop for it themselves, the whole thing would be cheaper and easier.

Lots less waste, too.

Rho

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You're making less sense than usual. What is this supposed to mean?

Rho

 

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Kriegprojekt  3 stars
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Regardless of if its so free it rains from the sky - the stupid people will still NOT use birth control and the people in the system wont use it because they want to continue to reap the benefits of the system.

 

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