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The supreme court has already determined that religious freedom is not absolute. There are "religions" that allow multiple marriages to eight year old girls, and that doesn't mean that we have to allow that. Romney's parents left the USA (love it or leave it, commies) because of "religious persecution" because US states had outlawed polygamy.

This isn't about religious freedom, however. Never mind the fact that this is about secular non-profits associated with specific religions rather than the religious organizations themselves, which are exempt, or that Obama granted a more generous religious exemption than most states (including Massachusetts's Romneycare) by allowing the insurance providers rather than the organization to pay for contraceptive services. No, this is all about allowing secular corporations and insurance companies the ability to take a broadly-defined "moral objection" -- in other words, to dismantle Obamacare by changing the definition. Any type of coverage by any type of organization could be deemed "immoral" and the provider would not have to include it -- including the whole damn concept.

I'm sure you s**theads on the right are already aware of that and are cheering it, but don't drop off the kids in my cereal and call it chunks of chocolate. You ARE going to lose on this. Get used to it.

 

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If we stopping making employers provide health insurance for their employees, this wouldn't be a problem.

Rho

 

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Yea while we are at it, let's get rid of Social Security, Equal Opportunity (discrimination laws), Unemployment Ins, Worker's Comp and any other law or regulation that interferes with profit, oh and axe all holidays and the 40 hr week too.

That way we can be paid in gold at the end of the working day.

Oh and don't forget Unions.

 

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What possible legal justification can there be for requiring an employer buy bulk health insurance ?

If all they did was paid the employee what they are worth and let them shop for it themselves, the whole thing would be cheaper and easier.

Lots less waste, too.

Rho

 

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Right now there isn't anyone forcing people and you are hard pressed to find a job around here that even offer it. 90% of the jobs I see posting pay $12 - $14 on average with no benefits. :\

These are jobs that require a 4 year degree and experience in the field. Sure, they aren't rocket scientist jobs but they are jobs that take a bit of skill and knowledge.

 

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I think those who have been trying to put their religion into the public classroom don't make a lot of sense when they whine about this

 

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The law requires it if you have over a certain number of permanent employees. The requirement has driven companies to not hire so as to stay below the minimum and to employ people through temp agencies or hire them as contract workers in order to avoid the requirement. It's ridiculous.

There's no reason why a company has to waste money paying internal HR people to specialize in "health care for our employees" just to take care of all the insurance gunk a company is required to do. I'd let them do it if they want to, but the whole industry would be better run if everybody just got to choose and buy their own.

Rho

 

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That isn't true and I can prove it.

I am less than a 10 person company and I pay for insurance, (required by Hawaii law for any employee that gets more 21 hours a week three weeks in a row)

Our insurance carriers are regulated by law, they all make profits, but they can't pull the same onerous crap that they do on the mainland.

In fact I pay the same group rate that a firm with hundreds of employees would pay.

 

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