GrimTempest posted:
We can't just leave them as they are because they believe infidels need to die, they have no tolerance for people not of their religion. Their religion has indoctrinated them to this belief. We're not talking about muslims here in the west who have adapted to a more tolerant mindset, we're talking about poor people who have nothing but their religion. They will always hate us simply because we have more power to shape this world than they do. Our way of life itself is an offense to their sensibilities and their god gives them permission to take and do what they want because they are the chosen people in their minds.
So yes, we do need to either change them or isolate them, the only other alternative is wipe them out. We have the right to do either because we're defending ourselves and our way of life just as they are. The strong win, the weak fade into history and thats the way of the world. If anyone seriously thinks that simply withdrawing from the region and ignoring them will prompt them to do the same to us you have a very weak grasp on reality. They live by religious law and kill their women for showing too much skin or meeting the gaze of men because it invokes lust in the men...they blame the women for this and kill them or beat/whip/stone them. They aren't free to believe in what gods they want, their religious government kills people who stray from their religion. This is the people you want to defend or claim should not be changed? Their way of life and belief system is a threat to anyone that comes into contact with it.
If they stay in their country, you have no right to anything.
You only have a right if they export violence, which goes to why you should defend your own borders.
Now, do I like their culture of ignorance? No, but you can't interject yourself into their society and "change them", it doesn't work. It is the same as when you tell your kids "what to do" and they ignore everything you say.
The only way you can "change them" is by allowing them to see how much better things are in other parts of the world. Remember, Christians were just as backwardly retarded as Muslims in some countries are today and the only reason that changed is because America didn't have set religious laws, allowing people to follow their own faith in the way they believed. Over time, even the extremists were nullified. Fire and Brimstone brain washing doesn't work well in a free society.
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