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Jezza_Belle  4 stars
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its about damn time

 

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Jezza_Belle  4 stars
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its about damn time

 

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warflea
Title: Resident Mathematician
Posts: 44
Registered: 2001-8-22 12:57:18
Which potential technology is the best to get public funds? How is such a thing decided? By the one that paints the grandest picture of it's future success? The one that touts its green credentials most? The one who donated most to your campaign? The one that people have the most favorable opinion of?

It's a system that rewards lobbyists and ideologies, not hard work and innovation. We need to stop subsidies. Let individuals take the risk, invest, and succeed or fail.

 

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jeune  1 star
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Registered: 2005-5-29 13:25:11
warflea posted:

Which potential technology is the best to get public funds? How is such a thing decided? By the one that paints the grandest picture of it's future success? The one that touts its green credentials most? The one who donated most to your campaign? The one that people have the most favorable opinion of?

It's a system that rewards lobbyists and ideologies, not hard work and innovation. We need to stop subsidies. Let individuals take the risk, invest, and succeed or fail.



The one that is not 100+ years old.

 

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SeligSwiftblades
Posts: 24
Registered: 2002-1-7 10:02:04
I say take away the subsidies. At least we increase the tax revenue.
warflea
Title: Resident Mathematician
Posts: 44
Registered: 2001-8-22 12:57:18
jeune posted:

warflea posted:

Which potential technology is the best to get public funds? How is such a thing decided? By the one that paints the grandest picture of it's future success? The one that touts its green credentials most? The one who donated most to your campaign? The one that people have the most favorable opinion of?

It's a system that rewards lobbyists and ideologies, not hard work and innovation. We need to stop subsidies. Let individuals take the risk, invest, and succeed or fail.



The one that is newfangled and hip?



I knew I missed one aspect. Thanks.

 

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Uccello
Posts: 46
Registered: 2001-12-21 13:52:29
Rhodoman posted:

I'd be in favor of this if he would also take the shackles off of domestic oil production.

Rho



Actually domestic oil production is at all time highs and we are actually exporting some now, a little fact the repukes wont mention
Rhodoman  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-6-14 21:02:19
Uccello posted:

Rhodoman posted:

I'd be in favor of this if he would also take the shackles off of domestic oil production.

Rho

Actually domestic oil production is at all time highs and we are actually exporting some now, a little fact the repukes wont mention

We still import about half of the oil we use. What we are exporting is largely some diesel and specialty jet fuels that we make better than other folks do. We are still very much a net oil importer.

Rho

 

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MoFoEskimo  2 stars
Posts: 259
Registered: 2002-6-10 04:41:59
Rhodoman posted:

Getting enough electricity from solar at home to power your vehicle cost-effectively is the dishonest assumption, here. Have you calculated the cost/benefit numbers on roof-installed solar? It's joke w/o gobs of gummint subsidy.

Rho



Actually, at least in hawaii - and I believe California too, you get a huge tax break for putting in solar panels... Pay the rest of what's owed in installments and you won't have to change your budget. Like I said, at least in hawaii. The electricity bills in hawaii are pretty hefty.

Basically it takes 3-5 years depending on how big your system is for it to pay for itself, and like I said, without having to change your budget.

Solar panels and electric vehicles are great solutions to the problem. Don't be so butthurt that it's true just because you love your classic vroom machines. We all do. But come on, we've got to stop being so animalistic with our technology.

Actually forget the solar panels. The bigger question is why we aren't using free energy right now? It really saddens me that our society has made money such a driving force in life that we actually HINDER OUR PROGRESS for the sake of milking it all for what it's worth.

If you love them so much you can always just use a electric car to commute back and forth from work, and then when you want to go on a drive just use the ol' standby :]


You know what I would enjoy driving?

An electric motorcycle.

That would be so sweet - although probably dangerous driving around silently.
Rhodoman  4 stars
Posts: 1,397
Registered: 2001-6-14 21:02:19
MoFoEskimo posted:

The bigger question is why we aren't using free energy right now?

Where is this free energy you're talking about?

Rho

 

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