VaultNetwork.netVault Network Boards
Author Topic: Obama seeks halt to tax subsidies for oil industry [Locked]
Ptilk  4 stars
Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
It is absolutely the case here.

Oil companies are importing foreign oil (and the purchase is subsidized by the US taxpayers) in order to turn around and sell the gasoline created from that oil....overseas.

So we, the US taxpayers, are spending our money to subsidize the profit of oil companies on products which are of no benefit to the US public at all. Despite this fact, any calls to end the subsidies are responded to with dire predictions of dramatic increase in gasoline prices to the American consumer.

Think about that.
SLAgent  1 star
Title: VN Artist
prolific sketchmonkey

Posts: 81
Registered: 2002-4-17 11:01:13
Gasoline is a byproduct of refining oil into PLASTICS...the very thing which we use to produce 'green' solutions to the energy problem. Gas prices are lower than they have ever been (when adjusted for inflation) there is no crisis in that area. the OIL however is needed for our technologically addicted society to function...and that is whats gonna rape us.

 

-----signature-----
"Sleeper Agent"
.
mercinary artist for hire
Terminius_Est  3 stars
Title: Moon River
Posts: 894
Registered: 2002-2-27 06:08:05
The argument I hear for the tax subsidies is the small companies need them.

The big ones definitely do not.

Just don't know about the small companies, I work for a big one.

 

-----signature-----
There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the FORCE.
Sci/Fi Bookshelf http://tinyurl.com/2z8u9h
Hyperimiator  3 stars
Title: Maximus Probus
Posts: 840
Registered: 2001-7-20 18:55:36
You know why I know the big oil is full of crap?

Because I grew up in DC and every time that was a supposed gas shortage, Washington DC had the first and longest lines to get gas.

They deliberately starved DC to influence public opinion.

The only subsidy oil execs should get is housing, as in a free room in z federal prison.

 

-----signature-----
The Hyperimiator song
http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=1639&starttime=1:40:35
"ou are never going to be able to vote for the revolution. Get that hope out of your mind" -Jerry Rubin
http://www.youtube.com/user/Hyperimiator#p/u
combat_mage_sc  4 stars
Title: Hi. My name is Combat and i'm an alcoholic.
Posts: 1,061
Registered: 2001-7-20 21:19:21
Rhodoman posted:

jeune posted:

That was not a subsidy.

That was a loan guarantee by the American people

These two sentences contradict one another.

Rho



Rhown3d!!


 

-----signature-----
.................._@@@__
......_____//____?___________
- ---o--------BEER-POLICE----@)
-----`--(@)======+====(@)--
Banelord_FF  2 stars
Title: Cunstrukshen Werker
Posts: 321
Registered: 2002-1-3 14:33:41
Ptilk posted:

It is absolutely the case here.

Oil companies are importing foreign oil (and the purchase is subsidized by the US taxpayers) in order to turn around and sell the gasoline created from that oil....overseas.

So we, the US taxpayers, are spending our money to subsidize the profit of oil companies on products which are of no benefit to the US public at all. Despite this fact, any calls to end the subsidies are responded to with dire predictions of dramatic increase in gasoline prices to the American consumer.

Think about that.



Producing that gas here creates jobs for Americans.

Why stop with oil? Let's end them for all industries that shouldn't be getting them, including farming.

 

-----signature-----
The World is not dangerous because of those who do harm but because of those who look at it without doing anything.
Kanga_Roo  2 stars
Posts: 439
Registered: 2002-2-26 12:58:17
Rho - that's cool

Have a good one.

 

-----signature-----
Laws control the lesser man... Right conduct controls the greater one.
Mark Twain
BritonGuy  4 stars
Title: Serious Business
Posts: 1,567
Registered: 2004-3-4 20:43:50
Eradiani posted:

I rather see us get rid of the corn subsidy



Hemp would be more land efficient and easier to grow.

 

-----signature-----
Briton Guy...persnickety...NEVER! -Murron (truly)
Hawkson is the greatest. -Hawkson
Britonguy is usually right. -Onslaught on BT
“Do or do not... there is no try.” - Yodazami
Do you expect me to remember what I put in my mouth? -NSMachi
Ah-Schoo  4 stars
Title: Fuzzy Caterpillar of Friendliness
Posts: 3,034
Registered: 2000-8-11 09:05:29
combat_mage_sc posted:

Rhodoman posted:

jeune posted:

That was not a subsidy.

That was a loan guarantee by the American people

These two sentences contradict one another.

Rho



Rhown3d!!






Rhodoman posted:

The only difference between a direct subsidy and a loan guarantee is ...





Yup, "Rhowned"

 

-----signature-----
.
Opinion = fact. Anecdote = proof. Political label more important than either of those.
Welcome to ACF, where debate goes to die.
.
"fascist totalitarian secular progressive Zionist intellectually challenged Christian puppets." - Aerlinthina

VaultNetwork.net is an independently operated community forum and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or technically based on IGN, GameSpy, FilePlanet, GameStats, or the former IGN/GameSpy Vault Network.
References to VaultNetwork.net mean this site/domain. VNBoards-style presentation is a visual homage only. By using this site, you agree to the forum rules.