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TruthyID  Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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The final nail in Warlocks coffins. |
Beezamen posted:
In the mean time, how many raids would love to drag along a class that is nerfed across the board?
I can see it now "Hurry and level to 85, that way you're scaled properly ... and can be a productive member of our raid"
Typical arrogance, found here.
First of all, warlock damage is more than sufficient to clear any and all content currently available in the game, even post nerf.
Second of all, wrath raiding is for all intents and purposes over. Of course you're going to have to level to 85 to raid again. There's nothing arrogant about it those are just the facts.
This is the typical state of the game during the transition from one expansion to the other.
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Ashmaele  Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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Dums posted:
However, for those of you who don't delve much into the maths about Warlocks, this is an all around nerf to the base damage of those spells, which, in the long run, is nearly nothing. Stop worrying, because this is a nerf of about 50 dps at 80, and will be nearly unnoticeable come 85.
Can you explain this further? If damage was reduced by 12% on x spell, then how is damage not still reduced by 12% on x spell when it's cast by a level 80 or level 85? I will freely admit I know nothing about game coding, but it seems logical to me that a flat % decrease would apply at all levels. What am I missing?
Also, if this is much ado about nothing and not, in fact, a nerf then why was damage to all classes not reduced 12%?
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Fedup23  Posts: 358
Registered: 2006-7-14 06:15:32
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Date Posted:
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Ashmaele posted:
Dums posted:
However, for those of you who don't delve much into the maths about Warlocks, this is an all around nerf to the base damage of those spells, which, in the long run, is nearly nothing. Stop worrying, because this is a nerf of about 50 dps at 80, and will be nearly unnoticeable come 85.
Can you explain this further? If damage was reduced by 12% on x spell, then how is damage not still reduced by 12% on x spell when it's cast by a level 80 or level 85? I will freely admit I know nothing about game coding, but it seems logical to me that a flat % decrease would apply at all levels. What am I missing?
Also, if this is much ado about nothing and not, in fact, a nerf then why was damage to all classes not reduced 12%?
Because in the overall picture they want a typical fight to last 12 seconds instead of 10 seconds. When you add up 10s of thousands of battles in your quest to 85 then they have significantly prolonged the leveling journey. The "nerf" outcry is unwarranted.
Demonkillrx : "OMG.. Wow is so easy mode.. its a joke. I need to be challenged!! **curse-disease-curse-fear** zzzzzzz"
Blizzard: "Hi Demonkillrx, we have lowered your dmg 12%"
Demonkillrx: "WHAT?! WTF..YOU &^%%ers.. I'M SHELVING THIS CHARACTER, HE IS USELESS!"
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-Peo- Title: Caveat Lector
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Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Beezamen posted:
I expected more from you
I didn't, on several posts the temper tantrum effect is in place. WoW is perfect, didn't you know, anyone who says otherwise gets the tantrum treatment.
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siujoey Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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1/1/00 12:00am
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They nerfed the BASE DAMAGE. Most of your damage comes from the spellpower coefficient.
For Chaos Bolt, the spellpower coefficient is 85.71% with Shadow and Flame. See below:
Before nerf:
Base damage = 1429 - 1813 for an average of 1621.
4000 spellpower x 85.71% = 3468.4.
Total damage = 3468.4 + 1621 = 5089.4
AFTER nerf:
Base damage = average of 1426.48 (12% nerf)
4000 spellpower x 85.71% = 3468.4.
Total damage = 3468.4 + 1426.48 = 4894.88
Which equals a giant 3.8% damage reduction.
Edit: Obviously, spellpower is the bigger deal here. As your spellpower goes up, base damage gets to be a smaller and smaller percentage of overall damage, making this nerf a smaller and smaller percentage.
Edit 2: Even at pre-nerf levels, base damage in this example counted for 31.8% of the damage. So to clarify- they nerfed 32% of your damage by 12%....
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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-Mithan- posted:
Bitch Bitch Bitch.
I don't know how many times people have predicted the end of Warlocks.
Just an FYI for the clueless:
The game scales TOTALLY DIFFERENT BY LEVEL 85!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best post ever.
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Trigeminal Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
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Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
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Love the "everything is fine by level 85" argument. So by that logic we can re-word it to say the following? "The game sucks until you get to level 85."
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-Peo- Title: Caveat Lector
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Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
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Trigeminal posted:
Love the "everything is fine by level 85" argument. So by that logic we can re-word it to say the following? "The game sucks until you get to level 85."
No you can't or people will stomp there feet and call you whiners. WoW is perfect in everway and they never make any mistakes. All changes are magnificent and completely warranted.
~Fanboy
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NukeMage Posts: 346
Registered: 2002-4-7 16:58:45
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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It's funny how the whiners totally ignore the little bit of logic that was presented on this thread and just continue to whine and cry.
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Date Posted:
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NukeMage posted:
It's funny how the whiners totally ignore the little bit of logic that was presented on this thread and just continue to whine and cry.
Maths are hard!
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