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What Wrath players need to know to not suck at Cata! [Locked] |
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Arcilite_I  Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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siujoey posted:
This seems like it might come as a surprise to all of you judging by the responses so far, but..... there are LOTS and LOTS of players that couldn't possibly care less if they are "good".
My advice for those people:
Unsub, go back to single player games, where easy mode is the only friend needed
If you insist on playing a multiplayer game, at least have the courtesy of not queueing or grouping for anything ever
Thanks
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--Syrus--  Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
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siujoey posted:
This seems like it might come as a surprise to all of you judging by the responses so far, but..... there are LOTS and LOTS of players that couldn't possibly care less if they are "good".
My girlfriend plays her warlock, her only toon, sparingly. She prefers quests, mostly because of people that expect everyone to know their class inside and out and play accordingly. She just doesn't care. Hell, sometimes she just spams immo because she likes the animation. It's fun for her to run around and kill things and complete quests or see a new dungeon, etc. Will she ever top a dps chart? Certainly not.
The point is: not everyone plays to be the best (insert class here). Some people play because it is fun and gives them a break for a little while. The elitist attitude is the primary reason WOW has such a pathetic community.
Next time you are in a group with someone who is terrible, maybe give them a constructive tip. If they take it and run with it, maybe give a couple more. If they blow it off and don't improve- it may just be that they realize it is a game and are doing what is fun for them. The sun will still rise tomorrow.... I promise.
I would say that the casual level at which your girlfriend plays represents a small small small fraction of the player base. I don't wrong her for it, but if you just want to run around hitting the jump button as often as your hot keys and spamming shaowbolt all the power to you, but if you really and truly do not care to expand your skills with in your class beyond that as Arc says, you shouldn't be playing a game where other player relay on you to succeed. If you do, please do not be surprised when you recieve some feed back.
You mention throwing a constructive tip at a terrible player? I think I player that only spams one spell for the animiation is a little beyond a constructive tip. Apart from that we have had multiple threads on just how well recieved even a constructive tip is recieved from most players. Players quickly become rude and defensive at the smallest critique to thier playstyle.
In a 5 man group, I am not going to analyse your rotation, but if you are a class that we need to CC a mob for the pull and you can't do that well then there is a problem. If you can't get it around your head that if you damage the sheep it breaks the CC, there is a problem.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that a casual player who runs 5 mans should min/max and perfect their rotation and gear.
However, as you move up in the content, from 5 man to 10 man to 25 man, you begin to play with players that are going to expect more from you, and for good reason. To put it simply, if you don't pull your wieght, you risk the whole raid failing, so if you can't or simply don't care to. Please stick to your solo questing and 5 man dungeons and we won't have any problems.
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Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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Arcilite_I posted:
siujoey posted:
This seems like it might come as a surprise to all of you judging by the responses so far, but..... there are LOTS and LOTS of players that couldn't possibly care less if they are "good".
My advice for those people:
Unsub, go back to single player games, where easy mode is the only friend needed
If you insist on playing a multiplayer game, at least have the courtesy of not queueing or grouping for anything ever
Thanks
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This.
If someone wishes to be a delicate, unique little snowflake and "play how they want", then they at least should be group with others and ruin everyone elses game experience with their badness. They can suck at single player games without disturbing the rest of us.
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_Warlucky_  Posts: 183
Registered: 2008-7-20 04:40:07
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-Mithan- posted:
I don't care how people play alone but when they come into a Group Situation, their performance has a direct impact on the group and all members of the group. Likewise, the attitude of the experienced players matters as well, sometimes much more than one weak player.
People don't need to be the best player in the world in order to Group, however out of respect and common courtesy for the other people in the group, they should at a minimum, come prepared to learn/improve their skills.
Obviously, the more experienced people in the group should recipricate and not be assholes and offer that help in as kindly a way as possible.
I have no issue with somebody learning.
I have issues with the people who have no idea what they are doing and who instantly dig in and refuse all help and in the process hurt the group.
I also have issues with joe-superstar that thinks the group should be going Mach10 and acts like a retard in his attempts to "quicken the group".
For the former, I have no problem going slower and taking double or triple the time to do an instance and wiping a dozen times.
For the two laters, I just dont have the patients anymore and either leave or kick them.
There is no I in Team or Group for that matter.
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_Kewk_  Title: Sith Lord
Posts: 400
Registered: 2002-12-17 16:11:04
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_Warlucky_ posted:
There is no I in Team or Group for that matter.
I am a member of a team.
I am a member of a group.
I just pulled aggro.
I just broke CC.
I just wiped my group.
There are plenty of I's in team and group.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Spookysheep posted:
Arcilite_I posted:
siujoey posted:
This seems like it might come as a surprise to all of you judging by the responses so far, but..... there are LOTS and LOTS of players that couldn't possibly care less if they are "good".
My advice for those people:
Unsub, go back to single player games, where easy mode is the only friend needed
If you insist on playing a multiplayer game, at least have the courtesy of not queueing or grouping for anything ever
Thanks
^^
This.
If someone wishes to be a delicate, unique little snowflake and "play how they want", then they at least should be group with others and ruin everyone elses game experience with their badness. They can suck at single player games without disturbing the rest of us.
While I think Arc and Spooky are probably trolling, I actually agree with what they typed sort of.
If you're grouping and you don't care how you play, then you are asking others to carry you/put up with your antics.
Grouping in an MMO is (or should be) a collaborative, cooperative effort. This does not necessarily mean you have to put epic gems in your level 61 greens as you run the Underbog, but you should at least have some consideration for your fellow gamers (who are strangers, yes) that you group with. It's just common courtesy if you're going to group that you try to pull your own weight.
Nobody cares if you want to be terrible as you solo quest all day and all night. It's when you start grouping that you're basically now obligated by tacit social contract to at least TRY to not suck.
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--Syrus-- Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
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_Warlucky_ posted:
There is no I in Team or Group for that matter.
But there is a U in group, and if U break CC and U wipe the group because U could care less if U are a good player or not, then it is U I will be vote kicking. Thank U.
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IvanDF Title: Veni, vidi, vici
Posts: 190
Registered: 2004-11-28 11:24:08
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--Syrus-- posted:
_Warlucky_ posted:
There is no I in Team or Group for that matter.
But there is a U in group, and if U break CC and U wipe the group because U could care less if U are a good player or not, then it is U I will be vote kicking. Thank U.
Couldn't agree more. If you just want to play you're own way, stay out of dungeon finder. When you group you're playing with other people that want to get the job done. You say you pay your $15, well so do the other 4.
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-Peo- Title: Caveat Lector
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Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
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Iarwin posted:
What I don't understand is how did everyone get so awful at this game? It's not a hard game. You really almost have to try to suck at it.
Did people just regress after WOTLK came out? I missed the whole expansion as it just didn't appeal to me and I've only been back for a month. The first thing I noticed was how ridiculously easy the heroics where and how easy it was to gear up for raiding (which no one is really doing anymore). The second thing I noticed, was how bad most people are. Did all the people that knew what they were doing get bored and quit? Are all these people using the DF all newly minted 80's that slug through 80 levels solo? How can they suck this bad?
It is very simple. With the way vote kicking and leaving dungeons early works, you are FORCED to play with terribly bad players. The people who suck badly get all the perks in the world, they aren't punished for their bad play. You can kick one, then you kick timer shoots to 30 minutes and you cannot boot the next retard you get in your group. You can leave a bad group, but then you get a 30 minute debuff where you cannot queue again. Blizzard rewards bad players by forcing the good ones to put up with bullshit. If you SUCK at your class, you SHOULD be removed from the group until you learn to fricking play your class. If you don't like it, don't queue and ruin 4 other peoples day. If you don't like it, stop being so bad.
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