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Hornet_MT  1 star
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Registered: 2002-8-16 11:16:25
He posted a topic a week or so ago saying it is too easy to level... and I think I may agree!


Despite being a very casual player and getting really quite bored when spending time leveling (don't ask me why, I think i like to see material acheivements; be it a level, a new skill a piece of gear, etc...) I have actually done 2.5 levels in Cata yesterday. 8am - 5pm, not fast playing, just questing, 3/4 dungeon runs, a little unscheduled PVP, etc...


I realise this expansion brought a lot extra to the game and I am not criticising it. I've also found it to be really nice and I love the zones and the layour, Hyjal is a really fluid zone and feels really nice going around it, but I think I am almost done in Hyjal and starting to feel like I will be on the treadmill again soon!!


Fortunately, I have a Pally tank to take through Vash'j (or whatever the underwater zone is) and also want to work on my Shammie (lvl 50) and Mage/Hunter (lvl 25/20) - so I am quite looking forward to the new content in those ranges.

 

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azger
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I'm pretty sure sitting down and playing 9 hours is not defined as casual play time.
vn_cuch  1 star
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Agreed 9 hours straight is not casual

but I do agree the leveling is going fast....a tad too fast even. Without trying too hard, I should have at least 1 85 by weekend, and a second nicely on the way with some professions sprinked in too for flavour.
regulator_cracka  4 stars
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azger posted:

I'm pretty sure sitting down and playing 9 hours is not defined as casual play time.



Sad thing is, they really think it is here.


 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
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Even with the dungeon quest exp toned down it's still fairly quick. I think this most benefits the heavy multi-taskers. I'll queue for dungeons and bg's while exploring, gathering, crafting, questing, cooking, fishing. It all adds up.

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
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regulator_cracka posted:

azger posted:

I'm pretty sure sitting down and playing 9 hours is not defined as casual play time.



Sad thing is, they really think it is here.






There's no difference, other than the interval in which the time was accumulated. The data is the same.

 

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_Warlucky_  1 star
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Arcilite_I posted:

regulator_cracka posted:

azger posted:

I'm pretty sure sitting down and playing 9 hours is not defined as casual play time.



Sad thing is, they really think it is here.






There's no difference, other than the interval in which the time was accumulated. The data is the same.


True the data is the same however it creates another conclusion in that the only reason he is leveling too fast is that he isn't participating in the other content. He is just leveling. If you try to level all your professions to keep pace with your level it would take much longer. He has decided to either not do any content except to level or to level first and then do the other content so it appears it is too fast for him.

People who think it is too fast have means to slow it down themselves rather then spam for leveling nerfs.
Arcilite_I  4 stars
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You're making it more complicated than it is. Leveling is the gain of exp, and that is quite high in this game, regardless of your playstyle.

 

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siujoey  2 stars
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It IS fast. I was actually extremely surprised by how fast it is. I am 2% away from 81 just in the few hours after I got home from work yesterday. Questing- that's it. No dungeons, no PvP, nothing. On the other hand, I don't really mind it. I have to do it at least 4 times to get my 80's to 85, so I kind of like it being quick. But I can certainly understand people saying it is too quick.

 

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vn_cuch  1 star
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Arcilite_I posted:

There's no difference, other than the interval in which the time was accumulated. The data is the same.



No the Data is not the same. Data here leveling Vs time. So this is a question of efficiency/effective time.
Efficiency is directly related to the time spent and if this is in 1 time or with multiple sessions. Drawing conclusions on the data based on different intervals is not correct. you need to check if your data is "stable" and "normal".....(neither of which apply to wow )

So as to time spend leveling and co-orelation to time / leveling session - ie

Total Process time = Setup time + Leveling time + tear down time.
Lets call Leveling time = "Added Value" time.
Efficiency is bascially "Added Value time" / "Total time".

Setup and tear down do not "add value" (ie from an exp point of view). So Effiency can only be 100% if there is no setup/teardown time.

Now expand this into 2 extremmes -

Scenario 1
1 person doing a task for 9 hours straight
Vs
Scenario 2
1 person doing a task for 9 hours in 30 minute sessions. ie 18 seperate 30 minute slots, seperated in time.

For this, lets say it only takes a few minutes of "setup and tear down". ie log in, travel,play, travel, log out.
Lets say
setup time = 10 minutes
tear down = 5 mins

Process 1 "Added value efficiency" = ((9hrs - 15 minutes) * 1 session )/9hours = 97% efficiency
Process 2 "Added value efficiency" = ((30 min - 15 mins)* 18 sessions) / 9hours = 50% efficiency

So Large blocks of time dedicated to getting "added value" (ie exp) is more effective than many small blocks.


But of course, both people wasted the same ammount of time - No argument on that ! lol

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