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Vault_News  3 stars
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Registered: 2005-10-18 12:53:17
Zarhym responded regarding heroic difficulty in Cataclysm.


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Players were conditioned at the end of Wrath of the Lich King to mow through Heroics at lightning speed. Not only were they too easy to begin with, by the time Dungeon Finder came out players greatly out-geared the majority of these dungeons.

The reality is that it makes sense for Heroics to be a true and necessary stepping stone into raiding. They are more difficult at the beginning of this expansion's lifespan than they were at the beginning of Lich King. We like it that way. We want you thinking and trying new approaches through trial and error in order to succeed, just as groups do while raiding.

As new tiers of gear are released and new raids open up, Heroics will naturally become easier, but that provides little good reason for trivializing them now. This is true even if some groups -- particularly pick-up groups -- lack the patience, will, or teamwork necessary to succeed.

We prefer that skill and character power provide the edge in Heroic dungeons, rather than supplying simple boss fights where mistakes are so easily forgivable.

Will it test you to play at your best and communicate effectively with your group? Certainly. Should Heroic dungeons be tuned down so failure is rarely a real possibility? That doesn't sound like interesting design to me, nor would it act as a good catalyst for compelling, strategic, and social gameplay.



What has your experience been in Heroics during Cataclysm? Do you think they are easy, hard, just right? Would you rather see WOTLK style heroics or Cataclysm style?

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--Syrus--  3 stars
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Heroic Difficulty in Cataclysm.. you are not prepared..

 

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-Mithan-  4 stars
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Now make sure the crappy players read this and stop queing up until they don't suck.

 

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Elkabong08  1 star
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Registered: 2010-11-5 12:23:54
-Mithan- posted:

Now make sure the crappy players read this and stop queing up until they don't suck.



Someone in AV last night actually asked (very politely, actually) for people not to queue up for BG's if they sucked, it was ruining ally chances to win lol.
The_Korrigan  3 stars
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-Mithan- posted:

Now make sure the crappy players read this and stop queing up until they don't suck.

Be careful Mithan, you're gonna be called "elitist" by all the local "wow is easy" crowd. The ones wiping in heroics and whining that healing is too hard in this expansion.

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
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Maybe Mithan isn't afraid to admit what he really is.

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
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--Syrus-- posted:

Maybe Mithan isn't afraid to admit what he really is.

I'm not either - I'm elitist, if that means not mixing up in game with the average idiot we see in SW/OG or posting on this forum. I have no problem admitting that I like to spend my leisure video game time with quality people, and not kids or the escapees of the local retard asylum.

 

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Sociop  2 stars
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I think the biggest problem with this learning curve is the queing for 45 minutes only to have everyone wipe on the first boss and quit!


Is it like playing the lotto every time you que with about a 10% chance of getting team that will actually make it all the way though.
Kriegprojekt  3 stars
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Registered: 2010-4-12 13:06:28
--Syrus-- posted:

Maybe Mithan isn't afraid to admit what he really is.



We call him "Super Mithan" around these parts.

 

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Spookysheep  4 stars
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The_Korrigan posted:

--Syrus-- posted:

Maybe Mithan isn't afraid to admit what he really is.

I'm not either - I'm elitist, if that means not mixing up in game with the average idiot we see in SW/OG or posting on this forum. I have no problem admitting that I like to spend my leisure video game time with quality people, and not kids or the escapees of the local retard asylum.



Sounds like you are desperately trying to compensate for a small, tiny, "issue", shall we call it?

 

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