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Bremen_Gaheris  1 star
Posts: 182
Registered: 2003-1-29 03:33:24
The_Korrigan posted:

Considering your forum nickname, it's safe to assume you're an (ex) DAoC fan.

You forget a very important factor in your reasoning...

Most if not all nerfs/boost in DAoC were made after whines for nerfs/boost on the forums. A class was perceived as overpowered? The devs would not even look at their own numbers (my guess is that they had none anyway), they would just nerf it into oblivion the next patchG

In WoW, it's very different. Good or bad? Not always. But better than listening to whiny player? Definitely.
I prefer having the developer team take their responsibilities than to be dependent of the amount of whining that is done against my class on the forums personally. No matter how much people bleat about Ghostcrawler here, I still trust him way more than <insert random wow forum troll number 129393 pretending to do better than the devs> on some fansite.

There is nothing worse for a MMORPG balance that to start listening to the player whining and use it as the base for class changing patches.



Yes, and I agree with your stance. But you have to listen to your customers sometimes, right? DAOC felt like they were behind the customers making changes. WoW is making their changes and just dragging the players along, slinging them off as they go.

I guess we will see which is right. 6 months from now if they are doing well with the new model then they were right and I will just be out of a game I have enjoyed for a long time. Oh well.

 

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Elkabong08  1 star
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Registered: 2010-11-5 12:23:54
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Voqar  1 star
Posts: 169
Registered: 2001-3-12 10:39:10
Liquid741 posted:

Figured I'd see some nice healing changes, but I guess they would like to see more reg. runs then H runs. I was surprised about the sub. rogue comment. Not sure why at this point you would run that spec in PVE...not enough data, because the spec sucks.



There's nothing wrong with healing. Bliz can't fix stupid. Play less stupid, and healing isn't such an issue.


Healing is a group responsibility now. Healer needs to be efficient instead of spamming stupidly selected spells. Use the right spell for the moment. Think. Your dps need to be smarter. Get out of puddles doing fatal damage after 2 seconds. Interrupt stuff. Move if you're taking damage and don't have threat. Tank needs to be more considerate of healer - use those cooldowns (most are way shorter CDs now), use those trinkets, spec to mitigate/reduce damage as much as possible. Use CC, focus fire, minimize incoming damage.


Healers I run with almost never have to dump their bars, because we play smart, and we still blaze thru any and all heroics. You actually move faster if you play smart and manage damage better, because you're spending less time watching the healer sitting on their arse drinking. I rip our dps, especially melees, if they're failingto interrupt and/or standing around taking boatloads of dmg when they could be moving and/or paying attention.

Any healer that actually gives a crap, isn't a whiner, and wants to learn how to play refines their spec, refines their approach, and adapts.

 

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Bremen_Gaheris  1 star
Posts: 182
Registered: 2003-1-29 03:33:24
Voqar posted:

Liquid741 posted:

Figured I'd see some nice healing changes, but I guess they would like to see more reg. runs then H runs. I was surprised about the sub. rogue comment. Not sure why at this point you would run that spec in PVE...not enough data, because the spec sucks.



There's nothing wrong with healing. Bliz can't fix stupid. Play less stupid, and healing isn't such an issue.

Healing is a group responsibility now. Healer needs to be efficient instead of spamming stupidly selected spells. Use the right spell for the moment. Think. Your dps need to be smarter. Get out of puddles doing fatal damage after 2 seconds. Interrupt stuff. Move if you're taking damage and don't have threat. Tank needs to be more considerate of healer - use those cooldowns (most are way shorter CDs now), use those trinkets, spec to mitigate/reduce damage as much as possible. Use CC, focus fire, minimize incoming damage.

Healers I run with almost never have to dump their bars, because we play smart, and we still blaze thru any and all heroics. You actually move faster if you play smart and manage damage better, because you're spending less time watching the healer sitting on their arse drinking. I rip our dps, especially melees, if they're failingto interrupt and/or standing around taking boatloads of dmg when they could be moving and/or paying attention.
Any healer that actually gives a crap, isn't a whiner, and wants to learn how to play refines their spec, refines their approach, and adapts.



So, Tanking is a tank's job right? DPS is the damage dealer's job right? Healer's job is everyone's job now? So, what do the healers do now?

You see, you just illuminated the whole problem that most have with healing and are QQing about. Healing is friggin BORING now. If everyone does the healer's job by not getting hurt or healing themselves, the healer's job is boring and easy. If they don't? Healer is frazzled and stressed and feeling inadequate at their job. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

 

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