Did it, really? Still takes less than 10s for my tank to get into a random PUG. Note that I didn't do it for at least a week since I mostly do guild groups. The times as DPS seem to be similar to the times in WotLK too.

So what did change? Healers still get in PUGs instantly. Tanks, same thing. DPS have to wait from 5 to 15 minutes, depending the time of the day and the realm.

What did change?

 

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Tanks get in PUGs instantly. As a healer, I don't. Still always 5-10 minutes to get in. DPS claim it's more like 30-45 minutes. This is playing Australian primetime though, it's surely less busy that US primetime.

 

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Well, it's a different experience than on my server, but you're one of the rare person I trust here so that's even better. Doesn't that mean there are TOO MANY healers right now?
Why must DPS wait? because they have a ton of competition. If healers have to wait more... doesn't that mean there are more healers compared to the demand?

If healers where almost extinct, queue times would be instantaneous.

 

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Well, for starters, tanks used to be instant and now aren't - although only 2-3 minute waits at most. Healers used to wait 5-10 minutes on my server and are now instant. DPS used to be 15-20 minutes at most, and now it's crawling upwards of 45minutes. Those are changes in queue times in my experience.

I'd just add that the only random healers that appear to be enjoying themselves atm are Shaman. Well, and apparently raid healers. But raiding has always been a job, so I'm not surprised those healers enjoy the game as is.

 

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Based on what experience? If I join a random heroic queue, I get in immediately, with zero waiting time.



Was never that way on my server. Healers get instant joining just like tanks, and this since the early days of the random dungeon tool.



In YOUR experience, maybe. How many factors can influence this? What time do you play? What kind of server are you on population wise? I'm pretty sure that if I log in at 4am with my tank I'll have a short wait time indeed. Or maybe even not.



Paladins in my guild are having a blast. They were worried about the level 80 4.0 paladin healer status, and it indeed solved itself at level 85 with the new talents and skills. Priests have no problems, doing their job, like paladins they can't just faceroll the keyboard anymore though, they have to think a bit. Same for druids.

I have yet to hear a healer who has a major problem with the expansion, except the normal and announced increase of difficulty all classes and roles are experiencing. The worse complain I've heard for now is that people of all roles have to pay attention to their screen again even in 5 man, instead of tatooing "QWERTY" on their foreheads while playing their characters.

Yeah go figure. I may have to pop a cooldown or two during a TRASH pull in a 5 man heroic dungeon now. And as a tank, I enjoy it. Way more fun than dropping death and decay and waiting until all mobs are dead.

 

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I enjoyed the "keying" system prior to the changes during BC.

Access to the Heroic versions generally meant you at least knew the normal dungeon. Sometimes not, as you could quest to get the rep for the key.

I loved the Onyxia key chain. I was also one of the few that worked to get my UBRS key, on a couple of characters actually. The Molten Core chain was pretty cool too.

I miss the days where you actually had to put some effort into doing certain things.

 

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Yeah like Kara?

The most obvious bottom line is...NO ONE IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY SATISFIED! On the other hand is it really THAT hard to relearn your class? The highest (before 4.0) I ot a Lock to was 55. NOw I'm starting over again with a Worgen. (Yes I got my XPAC in CE mode YIppee!)


The game is ever evolving and ever changing.


It's like the weather in Maine....don't like it?....WAIT!

 

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This is a very skewed view of what's going on, you're completely wrong. Except for tanks having instant queues, that's the only thing you got right. But I guess that's because it's the only part you're actually speaking from experience.

 

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So, Korrigan is basically saying Europe has always been short on both tanks and heals...and both are still getting instant queues. (and nothing has changed)??


Over here, across the pond, healer times are steadily getting closer to instant (from an average for me of about 2-7 minutes)...which is a big change, at least in my RFD group of servers.


This "double shortage" is increasing times for DPS...to over 30 minutes in most cases...at the end of wrath is was about 10-15..


Doubling is a substantial change.

 

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