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siujoey  2 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
The_Korrigan posted:

Sociop posted:

In reality these sales numbers have proven less sells thus the player population can now expect even less next expansion.

Care to explain your logic here?
So they have sold MORE, yet you pretend it proves they sold LESS?

I'm confused.



I think he is saying that they have proven that an expansion with less content still sells well. The only flaw with that is that there is 80-85 content in addition to revamping all the lower level stuff. Just the ability to fly in the old world would have taken a MASSIVE amount of work. It's an easy argument to make when you don't know what you are talking about.....

Is the content too easy? Maybe. Should they have put in more high level content at the expense of some of the lower level stuff? Maybe. Concentrated more on PVP? Maybe. Is the expansion just basically a $40 patch? Certainly not. You have many arguments you can make against Cata, but the one you chose is ridiculous.

 

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Spookysheep  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
Ok, so only 39% of subscribers bought the xpac so far.

What are the other 61% of subscribers doing you think?


I wonder how many of the 4.7 million will still be subscribed in February since even the most casual among them will have completed all the "new" content by then.

I wonder if there will ever be a caffeine free diet version of vanilla coke?


Its these nagging life altering questions that keep me up at night.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Billarious posted:

Exodus_The_Mage posted:

ATVI stock hasn't even move much in the recent months.

On the other hand... Apple is yummy.



ATVI hasn't moved much in a year or so lol



I bought shares this past summer thinking the expansion might push the price up by Christmas.

Unfortunately that really didn't materialize. Last I checked it was sitting at $11.94. I bought at $11.42. Not a loss but not the big gain I expected.

Still, the average target price I'm seeing is around $15 so I'm hopeful it will get there.

Nvidia, on the other hand, has more than doubled in that same time period

 

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kyrv  2 stars
Title: Lord Logicus
Posts: 263
Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
Broken_Kayfabe posted:

kyrv posted:

They went from 10 to 11 to 12 million. Where are you getting the decline?


Yes CAT outsold wotlk, they set a record. Nobody has sold more. Setting this record with the decline in subs you mention is impressive.



I got the decline from when they dropped off from that high. They were in fact in a more than year long decline prior to cata. They don't announce when the numbers drop down.


In any event I am quite sure they are propped right back up. After all, you can't know something is crap until it's been tried, right?


And honestly, it's the total subscription numbers that are impressive, not this "record". Since you effectively would not play WoW *without* the expansion, it stands to reason everyone who wants to play WoW will get it as early as possible, as opposed to other games where there is no drawback to waiting. In terms of this record, therefore, WoW was more or less competing only with itself. Online upgrading probably had more to do with the number than anything.


No matter. Let the fanboys have something to hang their hat on to excuse every decision their hero Ghostcrawler makes once again. We'll talk about this again when we have retention numbers, and we'll see if they go as quiet again as they did when it came out WoW stopped growing and began shrinking more or less exactly the moment Ghostcrawler took control.






Hmm you are working very hard to avoid admitting the obvious.


"Since you effectively would not play WoW *without* the expansion, "


Wrong, they redid the leveling, you can have a blast now without any of the expansions.


"No matter. Let the fanboys have something to hang their hat on to excuse every decision their hero Ghostcrawler makes once again."


Ah, you don't like GC. I don't like him either. Not really anything to do with the subject though.


"WoW was more or less competing only with itself."


WoW is competing with every other game out there, and every other way to spend time and money. Good grief what a silly statement. Come on now. Do you think WoW is that good that they truly have NO competition in making a good game?


"We'll talk about this again when we have retention numbers, and we'll see if they go as quiet again as they did when it came out WoW stopped growing and began shrinking"


Yes WoW will start declining, I've read that since the game released. Hey, it will be true eventually. And since we all know this, yes, we all told us so.

 

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JzeroVN  1 star
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Registered: 2001-3-16 19:00:46
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Ok, so only 39% of subscribers bought the xpac so far.


What are the other 61% of subscribers doing you think?


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Playing in areas the expansion isn't available as has been stated a couple times.

 

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Boone-Eldar  2 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
Spookysheep posted:

Ok, so only 39% of subscribers bought the xpac so far.

What are the other 61% of subscribers doing you think?


I wonder how many of the 4.7 million will still be subscribed in February since even the most casual among them will have completed all the "new" content by then.

I wonder if there will ever be a caffeine free diet version of vanilla coke?


Its these nagging life altering questions that keep me up at night.



Around 7 million of the subs are in China, which as has already been stated do not have the expansion yet.

The number of subscribers outside of China is in the 5 million range, which means that the percentage is more in the 95% range, not 39%.

You already knew all this Spooky and I know your post was yet another bait post so I decided to correct your post before more of the lemmings latch on to the "only 39% of the subscriber base bought the expansion! Fail! Fail!".

 

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kyrv  2 stars
Title: Lord Logicus
Posts: 263
Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
Spookysheep posted:

Ok, so only 39% of subscribers bought the xpac so far.


What are the other 61% of subscribers doing you think?



Those were, what, December numbers? Do you suppose they will sell any this year?

 

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Spookysheep  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
Isn't it funny how people pick out parts of posts and conveniently ignore the rest when it doesn't suit their assertions.


We're talking about Caffeine Free Diet Vanilla Coke here.


If you're not talking about Caffeine Free Diet Vanilla Coke, then you all epic failed.

 

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