I've posted this before...


Another thought I have is that you have to also remember that the subscriber base of WoW today is not just the one we had when we launched. There's a whole bunch of people who tuned out of WoW two years ago or four years ago, but who really enjoyed it, and when another MMO comes out that tickles their fancy, they'll jump into it. I don't know what the exact number is off-hand, but the total number of subscribers we've had is easily more than double - maybe closer to triple - the current subscriber base.


From http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/interviews/6773-Five-Years-of-Warcraft-Speaking-With-Blizzards-Rob-Pardo.2


That was in November 2009. So the number of subscriptions in the past was double to triple than it was on November 2009. Now I don't know how to reconcile that fact with the posted numbers that show growth from 5 million players in 2004 to 12 million today. The only thing I can think of is that since he was talking to a US audience, he was quoting the US subscriber rate and not the overall subscription rate?

this thread is all about measuring each other's epeen.

 

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Blizzard should just make monthly press releases reminding everyone that their jeeps always be bouncing in the New York streets. Maybe a Youtube video of their top brass on a yacht flashing bling and drinking Cristal.

 

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So has everyone finally reached the common realization that 4.7 million is the last nail in WoW's coffin?

 

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I got the decline from when they dropped off from that high. They were in fact in a more than year long decline prior to cata. They don't announce when the numbers drop down.

In any event I am quite sure they are propped right back up. After all, you can't know something is crap until it's been tried, right?

And honestly, it's the total subscription numbers that are impressive, not this "record". Since you effectively would not play WoW *without* the expansion, it stands to reason everyone who wants to play WoW will get it as early as possible, as opposed to other games where there is no drawback to waiting. In terms of this record, therefore, WoW was more or less competing only with itself. Online upgrading probably had more to do with the number than anything.

No matter. Let the fanboys have something to hang their hat on to excuse every decision their hero Ghostcrawler makes once again. We'll talk about this again when we have retention numbers, and we'll see if they go as quiet again as they did when it came out WoW stopped growing and began shrinking more or less exactly the moment Ghostcrawler took control.

 

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It's actually quite simple. The total box sales for WoW is far higher than the 5m or whatever western subscriber rates topped out at. However, most of those people have quit (according to who you were quoting). He wasn't saying total number of subscriptions in the past were double to triple ALL AT THE SAME TIME. WoW has been out quite a while now. There are always people coming into the game and leaving the game. The subscriber numbers - for western audiences at least - are total at any one time, not total number who have ever subscribed ever. God only knows how many people subscribed for a month and never came back too.

 

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That's what makes it fun!


....to watch.

 

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So from a woman's point of view... who won?

 

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I didn't read this whole thread, but I read the people bitching about how only ~30% got the expansion.

CHINA DOES NOT HAVE THE EXPANSION YET. Many of the people I go to school with are from China and still play on their servers and they don't even have ICC yet. They are VERY behind over there.


So that is why the numbers are 100%. You are welcome.

 

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