The healer also ends up dieing when the tank pull the I don't tank what I don't pull stunt. They should just kick the person who is pulling out of turn. But since it is the internet and everybody latches onto a phrase that they think is cool we are stuck with a poorly thought out solution of "If you pull it you tank it"

But wait, according to this board, tanks are saints and the rest of the unwashed masses are just lucky to be in their esteemed presence. How dare you question a tank!

 

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I usually let any dps who pull die, or at least try to. If the healer ends up getting aggro I'll try to pull off. But often by then it's a wipe(on heroic) as generally there will be 5 mobs running all over the gd place.

Last night we were in Pinnacle. I usually pull into one of the corners and AoE tank there, maybe CC 1 or 2 mobs if have good CC. We were pulling the full group(pull just below Dragon boss, 5 mobs), no CC. I ran into the corner to get ready to pull, and the Mage decides to pull into the middle of the platform. My friend and I just watched in amusement then jumped off the edge to be ported back to entrance The Mage knew he screwed up and apologized. No idea why he pulled though, I'd been pulling whole place up until that point.

I generally set a pretty fast pace in heroics. As long as the healer has enough mana to make it through the pull. Most are good enough to not need to drink unless something goes wrong.

One of the most annoying things dps can do when I'm tanking is pull before I've set marks for kill order/cc etc. Some guys are just in such a rush.

The only time it was even remotely "OK" was when we had a badass Hunter trap/wyvern pulling, basically doing all CC by himself. But he was just doing it on his own, regardless of whether anything was marked or not. I still find that annnoying.

 

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I'm a moron.


If I don't pull it or ask someone to pull it, I don't fight it. Unless it's hitting the healer. And on those rare occasions when someone makes a mistake with tab targetting. If you consistently pull agro, I let you die. The only ones I do my best to keep alive are msyelf and the healer. No Omen = dead dps. There's even a default set up in the game UI that lets you know when you're pulling agro. Moral of the story, watch your threat.


Oh yeah, I'm curious though, if you wee in VH, why on earth did you wait for a rez? It's like what, 2 seconds to zone in? If you're serious about being a benefit to your you don't waste the healer's mana and time like that. /shrug Just my two cents.

 

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Tanks that won't go the extra mile to pull off of aggressive DPSers are just plain lazy imo.

 

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DPSers who think they are the king of the jungle and can pull anything without asking if the tank (and healer) are ready can find another tank. When I tank, the healer and me set the pace, not the DPS. Don't like it? Piss off from my group, and find a better one. Good luck.

 

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Actually this is everywhere... not just his board.

 

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When I die I waste your time too.

When you pull before everybody is ready, and notably the healer and tank, you waste everybody's time, so it's either you stop, or if you persist on subsequent pulls, it's vote kick or I leave the group. I have instant queues for heroics, not to mention I almost always queue with my friend who plays a holy paladin. Your loss, not mine, I have other things to do too if I ever get the dungeon debuff anyway, no big deal.
I have yet to leave a dungeon group for that reason btw - vote kick works just fine against idiots of that style, since the other group members also notice his stupid behavior.

*you not being "you, kewk", but "you, DPS" in general.

 

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DPSers who won't go the extra mile and exercise a bit of intelligence and restraint so they don't pull off of the tank are just plain lazy imo. As a hunter, it takes more restraint to DPS in a controlled efficient manner than it takes to just mash buttons and auto-acquire targets regardless of the kill order/what is being tanked at the moment.

It goes both ways.

 

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