The real question is: would they indeed try harder - or would they simply just not play BGs at all, therefore increasing your own queue time to astronomical numbers?

 

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try hard and WoW dont mix....

 

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Even before that, my first hope would've been for Blizz to BAN or CANCEL the accounts of chronic afkers and the bots/autofollows. Sure every once in a while, ppl get DCd, emergency phone call etc, but I'm talking about accounts/players that time and time again got reported for afk'ing. F*cking cancel their accounts, or at a minimum ban them from any and all PvP. Blizz has gotten so greedy though, they'll never do it.

These days, a good 25-30% of the players in the BGs I've been in are either afk or otherwise botting or using that f-ing auto-follow script (where they just target random nearby players and auto-follow).

I've actually let my account expire, just using up my final few weeks. So tired of being p*ssed off when I play, b/c there's so many a*shats in WoW these days, especially in PvP. If it's not the afk'ers then it's the d*ckheads who don't try to win, they just run around like headless chickens attacking any nearby enemy, ignoring all match objectives for a given BG.

Now with Rift coming, and Guild Wars II out in a year, I'm done with WoW. The 'community' has deteriorated so badly, and the quality of play gone so downhill, it's time to hang it up.

And Cata became a big yawn for me after about 2-3 weeks, same sh*t, different zones.

If you want competition in WoW's pvp it's called arena. But if you were good at it you wouldn't be here complaining about bg's.

 

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This is just the new twinks conversation. If they really did remove rewards there wouldn't be enough people to even form a que. Just because today you think you would enjoy that play style today doesn't mean that others would.

Warning Warning : Water Cooler PvP Masta detected.

Yeah, it must suck that not everyone is up to your standards, after all having to win a BG by yourself gets so old.

LOL - PvP in a MMORPG... this generations gimp display spectacular.

I would suggest if you need PvP up to your standards then create a guild, recruit friends and those who think like you, and queue as a whole. Oh wait, just try to find people who think like you because people with such attitudes rarely have friends.

 

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The other problem is - should the honest players be screwed up because of the cheaters/botters/afkers?

Think about it... those honest players just spent time in a queue, plus time in a battleground, fighting as hard as they could... don't they deserve a minor reward for that invested time? Or shall they be screwed because some lazy asshats abuse this?

You guys always stand up in defense of the casuals on this forum... removing rewards for lost BGs would screw up those casuals, or those who have only time for a few matches per day but enjoy it a lot. Remember, gear in PvP, aka resilience, is quite important in this game. All those honest casuals can still slowly progress towards being competitive gear wise if they get a little reward when losing... if they didn't, the progression would be even slower for them.

 

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BG's are fine the way they are. If people want actual competition there are both arenas and rated bg's. Both of which provide a greater reward assuming you can raise your ratings. Higher ratings = higher point cap per week.

 

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That would take care of the AFKers, but server like mine where Ali is out numbered and lose 8 out of 10 we would never get geared as we would constantly be facing a superior geared opponents, we would just end up losing more and more.

The problem is that wow is reward based and not pride based.


If people start losing in WOW, they do not rally together to beat the other guy. They get frustrated, discouraged and quit. Plus with cross server BGs there is no way to rally your side to win.


Back in the DAOC days, if your realm was getting hammered, people would rally together and make a push to fight back against the strong guy. You could tip the scales in your favor. Sure there were rewards but it was about a whole hell of a lot more then a few tokens to buy the uber sword of slaying.

 

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