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Quazimortal  Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Malachi256 posted:
The dead-internet situation is certainly possible and it definitely sucks, but IMHO doesn't constitute a good enough reason to not implement the change.
Quazimortal posted:
I could sit around for at least an hour thinking up legitimate scenarios explaining how retarded it is.
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IndridCole  Posts: 223
Registered: 2009-1-7 16:24:59
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Rill_of_WE posted:
Blizzard posted:
* If queuing as a group with a tank or healer, and the tank or healer drops group (or is kicked) soon after joining, those that queued with them will also be removed from the dungeon.
Not sure what this one is trying to accomplish. Anyone have a thought?
Blizzard posted:
* If a group queue of 4 kicks the one person that they did not group queue with they will each receive a more severe penalty to their ability to initiate future kicks.
I guess I just don't like the thought of being penalized in a legitimate situation.  But I understand how other guilds/groups have abused the system enough to cause this kind of 'fix'. Most of the time we do all guild runs but sometimes we only have 3 or 4 and fill. Rarely do we have to kick anyone in a mostly guild group. We're all pretty patient about explaining bosses and shrugging off mistakes. The only time we kick people is they keep repeating their mistakes when we've clearly explained what needs to be done.
This will prevent tanks from basicaly RUNING which dungeon THEY want to run. Let's say you and I group together, just the two of us, and we get Oculus. But I hate OCulus and decide to drop to get a new dungeon. That's not fair to the others who randomly came here as well who were not attached to yours and mine group of two. It makes us actually run the dungeon, at least for a little bit, because it says SOON after. Hwever the draw back is if I hate the dungeon and we just screw around or do nothign till the son time is up. Maybe close to that idea but who knows that's what it sounds like to me.
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IndridCole Posts: 223
Registered: 2009-1-7 16:24:59
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Date Posted:
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Quazimortal posted:
I've had my internet drop for no apparent reason in the middle of a dungeon before, hell it's happened during raids as well. Just because an event is rare doesn't change the fact that with this change the other people who queued in with them get absolutely screwed for no good reason.
Oh yeah that sucks my Internet (wireless) sh!t the bed in the middle of a dungeon (SFK) I felt so bad.
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_Warlucky_ Posts: 183
Registered: 2008-7-20 04:40:07
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Date Posted:
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The grieving this is trying to stop.
1. Paid quick ques where the tank gets 25G to group then drop.
2. Guild morons who kick the PUG people at the last boss so they can invite their inbred guildies.
3. Idiots who port out of the dungeon and attack the training dummies to stay in combat so they can't be kicked.
The only scenario that people have really come up with which might be a negative.
1. Someone in your group disconnects so if they get kicked their group will also.
So anybody with a moderate amount of IQ can tell it is a net positive unless you are actually just one the the grievers and are trying to pretend this will create a lot of new problems.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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A fix for that would be to classify someone who as DC'd as "out of the dungeon"...
Therefore they can be kicked with no penalty.
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Registered: 2001-12-24 17:04:55
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Date Posted:
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Its trying to stop queue selling. It won't.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
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I've had some strange things happening that this change seems to explain. Several groups have had the tank drop after the first encounter, despite having good DPS and healing. Using a tank for quick queue explains it.
I also had some very strange kicks. The last one I was using my Rogue. I was the top DPS but not getting many heals. About half-way in things got a bit rough. One DPS died and just before the end I died. The healer was doing a total tank heal and was able to cut the last few down. I was waiting for a res when I got kicked. I not only was not healed they would not bother to res me or explain why I was kicked.
I hope these changes fix some of the abuse, but I doubt it.
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Quazimortal Title: The One and Only
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Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Date Posted:
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
I hope these changes fix some of the abuse, but I doubt it.
Nope, it'll just create more. Lovely, huh?
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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These sorts of fixes are bandaids.
It's not Blizzard's fault, tbh.
A system where players can queue into groups, with virtually zero accountability for their actions, is inherently flawed.
Fixes like these are Blizz attempts to fudge that line a bit, but it can't fix the core issue.
It isn't perfect. Once you accept that it can't ever be, then you just make the best out of a bad situation. RDF isn't going anywhere soon, and accountability isn't making a comeback either.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Good changes. It should cut down on the overwhelming forms of abuse and grief associated with the LFD right now.
Too bad I already canceled.
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