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Heroic PUGs: 0 for the week [Locked] |
Malachi256  Posts: 158
Registered: 2002-11-12 17:33:28
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Heroic PUGs: 0 for the week |
GutterSludge posted:
No one would care if the dungeons were super hard, if queues were instant.
The simple fact that ANYONE can play a tank class and therefore have instant queues seems to invalidate your argument. Clearly lots of people don't want to deal with the challenge of tanking heroics.
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Arcilite_I  Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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The_Korrigan posted:
Malachi256 posted:
Having a few activities that actually require you to apply yourself isn't an unreasonable request for a game.
This.
And it has nothing to do with personal validation or whatever. The problem is not coming from neither the real "casual" players nor from the "hardcore" players, but from a specific type of players between them which is very loud and whines expecting everything is dumbed down to their level. I'd call that category "self entitlement driven casuals", or "scrubs", yes. They don't ruin (or attempt to ruin) only PvE, it's the type you also find on PvP forums whining and asking for nerfs as soon as they lost a duel against <insert random class name here except their own>. In the mind of those people, it's not possible that they suck at playing the game, if they lose in PvE or PvP, it can only be the developers fault, not theirs, even if a vast majority is doing exactly the same content just fine.
LMFAO, not only do you spend 99% of your time here 'validating' yourself through your PvE accomplishments, the rest of your post after the bolded part does nothing BUT try to apply some form of self validation.
Get over yourself, the French haven't done anything worth validation since creating the chocolate eclair.
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Date Posted:
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Maybe he does, but his post is 100% correct.
And challenge is not an unreasonable thing to ask for in a mmorpg, regardless of what some might say about "real life". And yes, IMO those who complain that games shouldn't have challenge are the sort that think they should win every fight - ie, people who play games in godmode.
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Malachi256 Posts: 158
Registered: 2002-11-12 17:33:28
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Arcilite_I posted:
LMFAO, not only do you spend 99% of your time here 'validating' yourself through your PvE accomplishments, the rest of your post after the bolded part does nothing BUT try to apply some form of self validation.
Get over yourself, the French haven't done anything worth validation since creating the chocolate eclair.
I am so sick of your personal attacks on Korrigan and other posters. You degrade this whole forum every time you hit the post button.
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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No he isn't correct. He's making generalizations from atop a pedestal he put himself on. It's hard to see reality when your head is in the clouds, or in his case, up his own ass.
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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Malachi256 posted:
Arcilite_I posted:
LMFAO, not only do you spend 99% of your time here 'validating' yourself through your PvE accomplishments, the rest of your post after the bolded part does nothing BUT try to apply some form of self validation.
Get over yourself, the French haven't done anything worth validation since creating the chocolate eclair.
I am so sick of your personal attacks on Korrigan and other posters. You degrade this whole forum every time you hit the post button.
Cry all you want about it, if people say stupid things I'm going to tell them so. Untwist your panties, Francis.
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The_Korrigan  Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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Date Posted:
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Arcilite's interventions are even more pathetic when they are tainted with racist connotations.
Just ignore the guy.
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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Humans are a race, French is a nationality.
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siujoey  Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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This thread is a gift that keeps on giving.
On topic however: Gutter is right. The way I see it, there are lots of people frustrated with heroics. I guess I should not have equated "challenging" with "difficult", as they can be 2 different things. Challenging is fine, difficult is just frustrating. There are many people who want their games to be so challenging that they get a real sense of accomplishment by succeeding. Maybe I am a "scrub" or a "baddie", but I will quit long before that happens. I am frustrated by my day job more than enough to fill that quota. And thank you for yet another classic self-centered reply Korrigan. Somehow, you seem to be annoyingly arrogant even when I genuinely think you weren't meaning to be. Simply amazing.
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The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster
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Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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That's the difference between you and me, siujoey. I do what I can in what is only a video game, and am always happy to have a challenge I can't take because it means I have always something to look forward to.
I never killed Lich King heroic before Cataclysm hit the shelves (at 85 is was cake). Why? Me (and my group) obviously weren't good enough for that encounter, even though we tried hard. Did you see my whine a single time here, saying I'm a casual with a real life and I think it's unfair LK heroic is so hard I can't do it? Nope, you didn't. Because I accept there can be things in the game for people who play better than me. You can't seem to accept that, and insult anyone actually better than you (at the game, of course, we ONLY talk about the game as usual) and try to get everything dumbed down to stupid level.
Always having something harder than you can do (right now) = always something to look forward to.
The problem with the self entitlement generation is that they don't want anything hard - they want their meat ground and easy to chew just like at McDonald's.
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