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Heroic PUGs: 0 for the week [Locked] |
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1/1/00 12:00am
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The_Korrigan posted:
Cawlin posted:
I suppose PuGs aren't dominating Cataclysm yet after all eh?
Yeah, I wonder where all those people who were claiming that are now... 
As far as I know, it was just me.
For every pug that you hear "bad things" about here on these boards, there are 10, 20..30 or more that went off without a hitch.
Total number of pug heroics completed daily >> number of "guild only" runs..
Pugs dominate Cataclysm.
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st0rmie  Posts: 108
Registered: 2005-4-20 00:33:25
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NukeMage posted:
I do not see very many posts by people who run them with guilds complaining; In fact, I see most of the people who say they do guilded runs are saying that the instances are good/ok/acceptable.
Realistically, the challenge for PUGs is to beat the heroic content; the challenge for guild groups is to get the Glory of the Cataclysm Hero achievement. I haven't finished that one yet since I don't spend as many hours gaming as a lot of my guildmates, but since three weeks ago a bunch of them have finished it, and the general consensus is that it was much better balanced than WotLK's Glory of the Hero achievement. I don't think that there are any achieves in there that require real class stacking (although some are a lot easier with two tanks or two healers), and certainly none that require you to far outgear the content - they're mostly just down to execution.
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NukeMage  Posts: 346
Registered: 2002-4-7 16:58:45
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st0rmie posted:
NukeMage posted:
I do not see very many posts by people who run them with guilds complaining; In fact, I see most of the people who say they do guilded runs are saying that the instances are good/ok/acceptable.
Realistically, the challenge for PUGs is to beat the heroic content; the challenge for guild groups is to get the Glory of the Cataclysm Hero achievement. I haven't finished that one yet since I don't spend as many hours gaming as a lot of my guildmates, but since three weeks ago a bunch of them have finished it, and the general consensus is that it was much better balanced than WotLK's Glory of the Hero achievement. I don't think that there are any achieves in there that require real class stacking (although some are a lot easier with two tanks or two healers), and certainly none that require you to far outgear the content - they're mostly just down to execution.
Seems like a lot of the achieves in Cata are also easier to get at this point in time, compared to when WotLK first came out. Maybe it only seems that way to me due my bad memory lol.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Alpha_Swift posted:
...toons played by people that have no idea about the dungeon, most can't even seem to find the instance door after the wipe.
Please, if you don't know fights, go practice in regulars. Or practice with your guildies who have the patience to explain the fight. Or better yet, do the community a favor and unsubscribe.
Hm, I guess that's 1:0 for finding certain dungeons instances first before queue'ing after all.
PopGoesTheWeasel posted:
I know I've queued random and sometimes you get a new dungeon you haven't done. I've asked what do I need to know and the "Experts" say nothing. So who's fault is the wipe.
As a mage, I try to CC one of the mobs only to have someone break it, who's fault is that?
Instead of marking the mobs, the tank runs in and aggros everything including the patrol he wasn't watching for
and of course, he didn't wait for the mana to be rechanged on the healer......who's fault is that?
That is something I indirectly noticed in another thread and afterwards when finally getting into the heroics. Aside to idiot tanks like the ones you mentioned, I´ve noticed the lack of talkative people in heroics, too. It feels like we`re playing with some hired NPC mercs from Diablo 2 or any other game.
Strangely, people talked more and acted normal back when BC showed up with heroics. I`ve not the slightest clue yet why specific players still come with this unnecessarily "douchery" mode ever since but I suppose that reason equals that of the average mass of trolls on all forums: because they can.
PUG or not, you better "BAF". 
Voqar posted:
I also wish they'd alter the itm level thing to not include pvp gear, it's rated too high to begin with and leads to some of the worst terribads in pugs.
I didn´t have the honor yet to bump into that, but that is worth QFT ^^.
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Diskent Posts: 69
Registered: 2009-11-4 09:57:01
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PallyDog posted:
I still think queueing for a heroics based purely on ilvl is dumb. At least at the requirment to have finished it on regular first.
There is a gear requirement.
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siujoey Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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Diskent posted:
PallyDog posted:
I still think queueing for a heroics based purely on ilvl is dumb. At least at the requirment to have finished it on regular first.
There is a gear requirement.
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The_Korrigan  Title: Scrub Buster
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Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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PallyDog posted:
I still think queueing for a heroics based purely on ilvl is dumb. At least at the requirment to have finished it on regular first.
I totally agree here. Along with the gear level requirement, you should have to finish the dungeon in normal mode before you can access heroic mode. Just like raids, actually.
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-Mithan-  Title: VNBoard Admin
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What is DUMB is the idea that there are no locks.
TBC had locks, and they worked excellent, because they kept unqualified people out of instances until they were ready (most of the time).
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st0rmie Posts: 108
Registered: 2005-4-20 00:33:25
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The_Korrigan posted:
I totally agree here. Along with the gear level requirement, you should have to finish the dungeon in normal mode before you can access heroic mode. Just like raids, actually.
Yeah I'm boggled that we saw this simple and obvious system in Magister's Terrace, and then it vanished, never to be heard from again. Especially now that we have the dungeonfinder, so getting a normal-mode group shouldn't be too onerous, even for a new alt a year down the track.
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Nakal Title: Moderator
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Posts: 363
Registered: 2002-7-9 11:50:38
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-Mithan- posted:
What is DUMB is the idea that there are no locks.
TBC had locks, and they worked excellent, because they kept unqualified people out of instances until they were ready (most of the time).
The problem there though, was back in TBC, grinding rep was a real pain. You did not have tabbards to help in dungeons and it just became tedious. At least it wasn't bad when they reduced it to honored from revered, but it was still annoying that I may have grinded up HFP faction, and a guild mate grinded up Cenarion faction, and we cant go into the same dungeons because we worked on different faction.
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