You miss the worst scenario. After queuing for 45 mins, the queue pop-up, and you were distracted and missed the queue totally -- felt like slamming the keyboard/mouse/monitor when that happened.

I assumed you don't have the luxury of guild mate, or friends who are still playing during same time as you anymore, and you have to rely on RDF most of the time.

Have you tried forming a group from /trade spam? The trick is that you don't spam "ilvl xxx DPS LFG for RH". That hardly work unless you are the rare few with 360+ ilvl. Instead, form a new group by spamming "LFM for RH", you can usually get 2 DPS + 1 Healer quickly. Just don't be too unrealistic on the gear level.

Depending on servers, tank can still be hard to come by. Most of them became "mercenaries" and will sell their service for 100-150g per run. But, time is money.. 150g for 30-45 mins wait is well worth it if you are gearing a new DPS class.

This approach works very well for Baradin Hold raid too. If you are playing an overly represented class (such as Mage), it may be very hard to get into a BH group. As longer your reputation on the server isn't half bad, you can form your own raid by simply yelling your own "LFM..", and get a group going in a short time.

And since they are all on the same server, you can keep a list of good and bad players.

Soon enough you won't have to suffer from 45 mins RDF queue -- and you get to make some new friends too.

 

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1.I have 2 level 85 tanks. (pally, DK)

2. I have 2 level 85 healers. (pally , priest)

3. I have 7 85's total, and the problem is that I don't always feel like tanking. I don't always feel like healing.(rogue, mage, hunter, lock to boot)


I have had very few issues with Cata, and actually found it enjoyable for the most part. My problem is time.

I have available spurts of about an hour,and i might have 2 or 3 of those on a (good) weekday... which was fine with Wrath...impossible with Cata. Even if I instaque with tanks, I am pressed for time to finish one random...


My time issues are my issue, not Blizzards...but the bottom line is an hour at a time was enough for me to run randoms on 6 toons in a day sometimes, especially on weekends in Wrath...

Now? I just don't have the time to even TRY to run my DPS in a random..add in the constant skill nerfs and changes...and instead of a fun game, it has become more of an aggravation than anything else.

And, even though my time issues are my own...Are they really? How long should the player have to "devote" to a "game" in a days time anyway?

2 hours in a row?
4 hours in a row?

Seems more like a part time job than a game at that point.

I'll pass, and so will many others.

Edit: And no, I would rather gouge my own eyes out with a spoon than belong to a guild in WOW. Been in plenty of them in the past, in other games, and they are nothing but a drama filled cluster#@$%.

I definitely have no time for that. Not one second.

 

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And what Gutter just described is pretty much the average WoW player's experience. Sure there are a handful of players that have dedicated their life to the game (to some degree or another).

But the majority of players are casuals and weekenders, and for those players, the game ends when they finish leveling at 85, due to the way cata heroics are designed.

Once they hit level 85 they either:

a) Dedicate much more time to the game than they have previously; or

b) unsubscribe


With all the panic mode posts blizzard has been putting out, my guess is most of them are choosing option b).

 

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I'm typically fairly patient with developers in almost any game, but Blizzard (collectively -- not just the infamous GC) is starting to come across as really patronizing.

It's annoying as hell.

No, the "added responsibility" of healing is not what makes me avoid your stupid freaking Heroic queues. But thanks for telling me that's what the problem actually is, even though it's not at all how I, your customer, feel.

Idiots.

I wouldn't normally say that they are "panicking" but lately with all the crazy, yo-yo hotfixes and what could be considered "spamming" the boards with excuses and lame reasoning....well, it makes them look desperate. How often during WOTLK did they announce how everything was "totally fine, everyone is really happy despite what players are saying"?





Exactly right. It is annoying and irritating to be talked down to like a child instead of a paying customer. I don't expect curbside, anytime night or day foot rub service from them for 15 dollars. But at least treat your customers/players with a modicum of respect.

 

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Well said. I would go a step further and say that if they had dedicated someone to seriously investigating the "disgruntlement," they could quickly come up with some examples of why they think things look OK from the dev side. Example:





...one can dream, eh?

 

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Time became a huge issue for me in WoW as well cause of Heroics.

I use to be able to sign in on WOTLK, and do daily heroic on my Shaman/Warrior/Warlock/Druid, and do it usually in around 1 hour.

That's including queue time.

Now.. I got my Druid/Warlock to 85, and the queue time on both as DPS was 45 mins, meaning 45 mins.. of doing absolutely bloody nothing.

now I could atleast do druid as a tank, but.. the dungeon might take 1 hour.. that's 1 hour.. for 1 class...

and that's if i'm LUCKY and don't get a crap group.

I can bust through a T2 in Rift in 45-1hour, and i will fee like i've accomplished more.

the T1's I can do in 30 mins, and honestly feel like WOTLK Heroics.

It's probably based on the fact that the Gear i got from the vendor was ABSOLUTELY worthless... I think 1 piece might of been slightly better then quest gear i got.

 

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lmfao, if you thought ANYTHING in Wrath was difficult you need to wear a helmet

 

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Speaking of wearing helmets...

 

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I'm not sure what you're saying?

that doing a heroics on my Shaman/Warrior/Warlock/Druid (all 4 if that wasn't understand) is to long or to short.

Maybe I should offer you the helmet instead.

 

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