There are shards all over I'm told with a multitude of varied rulesets. You should probably just go and enjoy those. The live game is already crumbling from listening to too many divergent crybaby whiners like you all wanting to be treated like their own speshul snowflake.

 

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I'm not going to get into the vitriol on either side here but I will repeat.


Game dynamics affect most people's playstyle. Most people won't keep a certain playstyle regardless of changes.


If the rewards are significantly greater for pvp then people will choose it and vice versa. One needs only look at the increases to BG numbers when they jacked leveling rates in BGs a while back.


And for the record I don't care which way people play. I play on both types of servers. I'm merely pointing out that humans are fickle. And they will almost always choose that which benefits them most for the least amount of effort and time. (assuming awareness).


And also just as a disclaimer I stopped playing WoW 8 or 9 months ago. But my points are still valid.

 

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Your points are valid, but you're conclusions from them are incorrect.

If people CARED enough to engage in whatever activity, they would do so. They don't care. They don't care about leveling faster, they just want to do it with the least hassle. Thus, they do it more slowly and in instances.

If you want more rewards for World PvP, that's one thing, but in the end, Blizzard's engine and more importantly, the hardware MOST people play with can't handle large scale PvP combat in WoW. So if you increased rewards for world PvP, you'd (possibly) increase numbers engaging in it (think back to SS/TM), and you'd very quickly run into server crashes and client slide shows just like back then.

As for leveling via PvP, I thought you could level in BGs now just as fast as instances or maybe faster? I have no idea, I haven't played a BG below max level in years...

 

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Source?





Wipe your chin there son.

Really? Your premise is that you can level faster with just instances than you can questing?

Also, where is your source information for the ratio of players on PvE vs. PvP servers leveling in instances vs. questing?

Further, people on PvE servers who are interested in leveling fast, do so by questing and MAYBE occasionally jumping into a dungeon queue if they need to complete a passel of quests in that dungeon, but by and large, this is a losing prospect as often as it helps.

One can only surmise as to why people on PvP servers avoid questing out in the open. I believe it's in part at least to avoid being ganked while they're pulling mobs as part of their quest. Obviously there are still at least a few like you who live for that (you created a thread about your desire to force people to come out and let you attack them while they're pulling mobs). I believe it's also in part because it actually requires you to actively play the game to level by questing.

You need to at least pay a bit of attention and be at the keyboard and actively moving your character along in order for leveling by questing to work out. In short, it takes a bit of effort, but takes less actual time. It is EASIER, but SLOWER, to level in the dungeon finder. It's not rocket science here dude.

 

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Nothing to fix, people will gravitate to that which they prefer.

You can kick and scream and stomp your feet all you want. Doesn't change the fact that the majority of people prefer to level in peace. Nothing you say, posit or spin will change that fact.

 

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Yeah, we heard you again, still really don't give a crap.

 

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Leveling in peace has nothing to do with lack of world population on either pve or pvp servers.


Pick a server. Pick a leveling zone 1-70. PvE or PvP. Do a /who. There won't hardly be anyone there. It's a false argument to say that on a PvP server it's due to them wanting to level in peace. What would it be on the PvE server then?


There is no incentive to level in the world. WoW has lost the massive. Which is really why the ones who left have left. I can play solo games that are more engaging.

 

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Haha! Yeah, I read all that and he is definitely mad.





But I don't own a horse...

 

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Can you really blame Blizzard for wanting to stay as far away from FFA PVP servers as possible? Incentivizing open-world play on PVP servers would mean they would have to fundamentally change their single-player (aka quest) system to actually reward grouping instead of penalizing it. They've been busy enough screwing up the 1-60 game last expansion -- I'm not sure you want them mucking with even more stuff they don't really understand.

 

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