The problem you're speaking of cawlin and some others have above isn't a problem that's limited to PvP servers. The leveling via all those other methods LFD etc takes people out of the world. This true whether it's a pvp server or a pve server. They aren't doing it necessarily to avoid pvp but usually because it's faster. Or as in the case of an old game they don't want to see the world anymore.

PvP servers are affected more by alternative methods of leveling because simply as the numbers dwindle down it takes away from the world of the RPG.

In an old game I guess it doesn't really matter. But in a new game, Experiencing the world should be a prime factor in leveling imo.

I don't really like the use of the word "forced" either in this case. Since playing a pvp server is a choice.

Also just as an aside. I don't consider arenas to be true pvp. World pvp is adaptation on the move or fly. Arenas are get the right group make up. Communicate. Kill certain groups in a certain order. Rotate CCs etc etc.

I'll take the 1 on 1s. or Jump shooting and kiting across ungoro a 1 on 3. And those times are long gone.

 

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So, Cawlin, any change to PVP realms affects you in what way again? Forces you to do what?


Nothing, because you couldn't hack it on a PVP realm, and only play PVE now. (you know, that CHOICE you made?)


So, your idea of "forced to be ganked" is just ignorant, absurd, and laughable.

Nothing new from you.

 

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I think the real root of the problem is that we are all getting old IRL and since we don't heal as fast after bar fights, we just go online and re-live our glory days while saying "I'm coming honey, just let me gank this one last noob!"

 

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It's one thing to lament the changing mind of the playerbase. In this case, the playebase has changed its preference. If there were enough people interested in playing "gank me while I'm questing", then they would be out there doing it. Instead there's a lot of folks who are just running instances, and a very few running around stealthed up, crying that they can't find anyone to ambush.





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Dude, is English a second language for you? You're not even trying to stay on topic or answer my questions. Seriously man gtfo if you have nothing to contribute. My contribution is laughing at people whining that their play style should be forced on others.

 

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I've been laughing at you about this very topic for years.

From the OP:

"If there was a reason to world pvp, like some sort of ability point system it would be amazing"


I have been saying this would be 10x better then Arena since Arena came to be.

Stay on topic?

I think you have Alzheimer's, I've championed this topic for my entire existence on these forums.

Fighting 1 vs 4 while defending a town should be more rewarding in-game than any Esport.
Earning Honorable kills while in enemy territory (These areas have RED letters for those like Cawlin who are scared of PVP realms) should be more rewarding than any Esport.


Ive said it all 100 times, its not really about winning or losing, its about the combat itself. We know, Cawlin, that your idea of skill is to run the same scripted encounters 500 times then run to the mailbox to show off your shiny Epics, but not everyone is satisfied with calling that a challenge, nor would they say that skill is required to do so.....

....just 24 other morons, and a decent youtube video.

 

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/chuckle

Okie, well you let me know there chief, when you have something to talk about.

 

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Not really much to discuss.

I'm right, and you are still floundering around with attempted trolling/baiting.


Some things never change.

 

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And all of your are still glossing over the point that healing after a real life bar fight in your 40's just plain SUCKS!

 

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What are you right about? You haven't made an argument, you surely haven't responded to my argument.





This is true


It took me 48 hours to recover from the pounding of just shooting 6 rounds of trap with my 12ga the other day... 150 measly shots... ugh, felt like I was in a car wreck afterward.


*edit* and it was a g-damn semi auto, not even my double or pump... Christ I'm getting old

 

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But at least you are keeping your skills up for the pending zombie apocalypse.

 

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