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Arcilite_I  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Perhaps Blizzard doesn't like people making guilds just to use the guild bank feature, but I know tons of people that do, and to lose your stuff because you are gone for a break and didn't know about a new feature, kinda sucks.



Getting a ticket for speeding sucks too, but it's a deserved punishment.

Holding the GL position in an absentee manner is nothing short of rude and inconsiderate.


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I like eating meat





lol!

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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The solution to this is:

Right after you cancel your sub, boot everyone from the guild, period.

 

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johntheobscure
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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Perhaps Blizzard doesn't like people making guilds just to use the guild bank feature, but I know tons of people that do, and to lose your stuff because you are gone for a break and didn't know about a new feature, kinda sucks.



I find it short-sighted, since almost everyone plays cyclically, and a lot of people returned to WoW after breaks over the years. To me, it smacks of desperation from a once dominant (and thus lazy) company now leaking subscribers: try to bully you into playing rather than letting you come back on your own terms. It is notable that they made guild usurping much easier in the latest patch, which also includes the "transmogrification" feature that users demanded for years, other games did, and Blizzard is only now offering as its subscriber base drops.

Incidentally, this guild was not just a bank, but a c. 250-member event with a lot of creativity going on. It was on the decline, but most things in WoW are.
Sprawl-zero1eye-  4 stars
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Personally I find manual intervention better suited so someone is actually evaluating the facts instead of just putting a timer on all situations, but I suppose that costs money.

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
Title: VN's Most Wanted
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Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
johntheobscure posted:

Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Perhaps Blizzard doesn't like people making guilds just to use the guild bank feature, but I know tons of people that do, and to lose your stuff because you are gone for a break and didn't know about a new feature, kinda sucks.



I find it short-sighted, since almost everyone plays cyclically, and a lot of people returned to WoW after breaks over the years. To me, it smacks of desperation from a once dominant (and thus lazy) company now leaking subscribers: try to bully you into playing rather than letting you come back on your own terms. It is notable that they made guild usurping much easier in the latest patch, which also includes the "transmogrification" feature that users demanded for years, other games did, and Blizzard is only now offering as its subscriber base drops.

Incidentally, this guild was not just a bank, but a c. 250-member event with a lot of creativity going on. It was on the decline, but most things in WoW are.



So was it a handful of people who barely play or a 250-member active guild?

It's almost like....the "facts" are changing as this story goes along.

 

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Jyiiga  2 stars
Title: The MMO Snob
Posts: 374
Registered: 2001-3-15 22:36:09
Arcilite_I posted:

johntheobscure posted:

Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:

Perhaps Blizzard doesn't like people making guilds just to use the guild bank feature, but I know tons of people that do, and to lose your stuff because you are gone for a break and didn't know about a new feature, kinda sucks.



I find it short-sighted, since almost everyone plays cyclically, and a lot of people returned to WoW after breaks over the years. To me, it smacks of desperation from a once dominant (and thus lazy) company now leaking subscribers: try to bully you into playing rather than letting you come back on your own terms. It is notable that they made guild usurping much easier in the latest patch, which also includes the "transmogrification" feature that users demanded for years, other games did, and Blizzard is only now offering as its subscriber base drops.

Incidentally, this guild was not just a bank, but a c. 250-member event with a lot of creativity going on. It was on the decline, but most things in WoW are.



So was it a handful of people who barely play or a 250-member active guild?

It's almost like....the "facts" are changing as this story goes along.



That is on the inflated side. It had plenty of people in it that had not logged in in months. It was as I stated, a casual guild (and probably mostly alts). At the time of its untimely death it probably had around 10-15 semi active players.

Doesn't matter now. It is gone and everyone is kicked. -shrug-

EDIT - I was one of those, never kick anyone Guild Leaders. No reason to since it was not for progression.

 

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NukeMage  2 stars
Posts: 346
Registered: 2002-4-7 16:58:45
I find it a little hard to have sympathy for someone who was GL and gone from the game for 30 days straight, especially when this feature was public knowledge. However I do think that it sucks that someone just ransacked the whole guild and bailed. 15k gold sucks, but honestly it can be regained fairly easily. Chalk up the lessons learned and move on.

Reminds me of when someone lost a villa in AC, back when they were in extremely high demand. As soon as it was available to be purchased inevitably someone else would come along, purchase it and 9/10 times keep most of the stuff. It always generated a lot of controversy about whether the stuff should be returned, who was wrong and who was right, yadda yadda yadda . .

But frankly, the best way to deal with most situations like this is to prevent it from occuring in the first place.

I still think that the good features of GL MIA outweight the bad, but that maybe some more safeguards should be in place (and working)

 

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Trigeminal  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
Years ago in my Shadowbane days our guild leader made off with a crapton of stuff and eBayed it for $2000 USD. I wouldn't sweat a little gold in WoW.

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
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Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
I'm gonna guess that Ghostcrawler had a hand in approving this "feature." I can't imagine anyone else would envision a system where GM could just randomly get handed to the next person to log in without a vote of active members or a petition of some sort. I can imagine lots of other ways to "leave it up to the players" without playing virtual pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey.

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Rule #1: don't share your banking guild with ANYONE.
If I ever lose leadership of my own bank guild... the leadership will go to another of my toons

I agree with you there's something wrong though: the delay should have started the day the feature was implemented.

 

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