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Trigeminal  2 stars
Title: Drill, Fill, Bill
Posts: 365
Registered: 2002-3-17 20:10:56
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
Taloquin posted:
In response to Trigeminal... If you find all of this boring, you should seriously consider leaving the MMO genre. And if you don't, I seriously invite you to develop a more interesting quest template than what is displayed in SW:TOR. Sure, there are plenty of "gather X insert-random-items" quests, just as every other MMO has ever had. It's not something that will ever change.



I don't find "all of this boring." I just found SWTOR's version of it boring. Yes the quests are the same as other MMOs but in some ways it is even worse in SWTOR. There are fewer quests clustered together and the travel time is increased. While it is a replica (almost) of WoW, you'd spend more time killing in WoW and less time walking. I'd rather level in WoW than I would in SWTOR. I sure hope the endgame is good

They are focusing on some "story" I suppose. Many people seem to play MMOs for the story. I don't play them for this reason. I enjoy the action more than the story (combat > voiceovers) and I enjoy the action with other players more than playing by myself (sorry Skyrim). I'm hoping GW2 scratches this itch.

 

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Zero_Washu  2 stars
Posts: 290
Registered: 2001-9-28 05:17:03
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
Ferrydust posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
RoamsBlues posted:
You're fully allowed to find it's not your cup of tea and not like SWTOR but your being disingenuous in your appreciation of the game... if you even have any experience with it.

But honestly if this does not meet the standard for a newly released MMO than you're either a hypocrite or no MMO will ever meet your standard.



Was wondering when I would encounter the rabid fanboi, I just glad he didn't break down and cry, or at least I could not see it. Do they crawl under their SW blankets with the Wookie doll with kung fu grip?

Graphics are merely okay, character models are actually bland unless in a Voice Acting scene, clipping is very bad
I have yet to read one good review of the crafting system.
Polished game play, yeah they got spawn camping down pat.
Balanced classes? You really typed that?
Open PvP is only good until a few weeks into game, then its a cry fest, still only three war zones?
The companion system is actually nice, guess its as close to sex as most SW fans will get
ooh... ships, uh other games call them houses, and in SW I want a tiny ship, not something I can get lost in
What constitutes tons of dungeons? Is this some obscure measurement I haven't encountered?


Tired of lists, the problem is RIFT set a high bar for refinement and SWTOR fails on many of those counts. The UI is atrocious in both its inflexibility and missing features. And I never compared its content to another game, I simply stated that its feature set EXCEPT for the voice acting is good for ten year old game. The talent system is like the worst WOW ever offered and no ability of undoing an Advanced Class you don't like is going to be a source of much grief in the community.


Still stand by my assessment, if it were not for the IP and Voice Acting this game would be toast, I guess they needed to add the over sexed twils to give the pocket mining demographic a reason to stick with it.



Uhh wow, you sort of went off the deep end there. Just sayin'



What I can't have fun going over the top on purpose? The last line I will stick with

Sorry, I don't know how to write "silly" because I tend to love tweaking fanbois

 

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Zero_Washu  2 stars
Posts: 290
Registered: 2001-9-28 05:17:03
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
RoamsBlues posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
...and no ability of undoing an Advanced Class you don't like is going to be a source of much grief in the community.


Again... talking out of your ass



How am I talking out my ass, you do know they stated quite clearly you will NOT be able to undo your choice of advanced class. Unless they caved in the last 48 hours.

 

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RoamsBlues
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Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
Zero_Washu posted:
Sorry, I don't know how to write "silly" because I tend to love tweaking fanbois


1-huh? 2-Try harder. 3-So...Waiting 'til you look like an ass and then claiming to have been trolling.

Zero_Washu posted:
RoamsBlues posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
...and no ability of undoing an Advanced Class you don't like is going to be a source of much grief in the community.


Again... talking out of your ass



How am I talking out my ass, you do know they stated quite clearly you will NOT be able to undo your choice of advanced class. Unless they caved in the last 48 hours.


Like pretty much half of what you're claiming... it's just not so.
It's been known since the summer through an interview with Georg Zoeller that this was a false assumption.
AC respec is discouraged through a cost that starts off as quite affordable and becomes increasingly prohibitive as you level up.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OepdDbMKI8I&t=1m00s
So to quote GZ "That is not correct".
Zero_Washu  2 stars
Posts: 290
Registered: 2001-9-28 05:17:03
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
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Zero_Washu  2 stars
Posts: 290
Registered: 2001-9-28 05:17:03
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
Oh well, the pocket mining demographic will certainly be in love with this game

http://youtu.be/B7pgk7TZO_c

 

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Zero_Washu  2 stars
Posts: 290
Registered: 2001-9-28 05:17:03
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
OKAY, this gets better every time I try to figure it out.

From a German interview on 11/16/2011

Is it possible to change his Advanced class?
We have changed her mind again. It will not be possible to modify the Advanced class. We believe it is currently not necessary. Talent trees are to be reset but can not continue to the advanced class. At least not at launch. Probably not.


and from 11/18

11/18/11

A thread started up stating that it was confirmed from the European Q&A that there will NOT now be the ability to changed your Advanced class as was previously confirmed.

Georg Zoeller, Principle Lead Combat Designer came on with the answer:

Mainly interface improvements that reduce the chance for players to make the wrong choice. Including the ability to preview skill-trees.

It's been testing favorably internally for a while and we've just started rolling this out to more broad testing.

This is a topic we will constantly evaluate as the game matures. It's very possible that somewhere down the line we find that we want to give people the flexibility of switching ACs, but for launch, this will not be possible.

 

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Zero_Washu  2 stars
Posts: 290
Registered: 2001-9-28 05:17:03
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
RoamsBlues posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
Sorry, I don't know how to write "silly" because I tend to love tweaking fanbois


1-huh? 2-Try harder. 3-So...Waiting 'til you look like an ass and then claiming to have been trolling.

Zero_Washu posted:
RoamsBlues posted:
Zero_Washu posted:
...and no ability of undoing an Advanced Class you don't like is going to be a source of much grief in the community.


Again... talking out of your ass



How am I talking out my ass, you do know they stated quite clearly you will NOT be able to undo your choice of advanced class. Unless they caved in the last 48 hours.


Like pretty much half of what you're claiming... it's just not so.
It's been known since the summer through an interview with Georg Zoeller that this was a false assumption.
AC respec is discouraged through a cost that starts off as quite affordable and becomes increasingly prohibitive as you level up.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OepdDbMKI8I&t=1m00s
So to quote GZ "That is not correct".


Actually see my other post, the same guy changed his mind.

 

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TruthyID  1 star
Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:02am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
I spent a lot of time looking for a way to change an advanced class because I accidentally clicked on the "pick this advanced class" button instead of the "preview trees" button and got stuck with an advanced class that I didn't want. I don't know what interface improvements they could have made because there wasn't even a confirm box for picking an advanced class. I couldn't believe that equipping a lvl 1 green gets a confirmation box but a choice as big as picking your advanced class, which at this point is irreversible, didn't get one. It's really poor planning.
Spookysheep  4 stars
Title: Lieker of Cheese
Posts: 1,248
Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:03am Subject: /vomit @ SWTOR
Spookysheep posted:
RoamsBlues posted:
Does it have as much content as a 7yo MMO? no. Why would you expect that?
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Did you really just ask those two incredibly stupid questions? Or were you just trying to be funny by portraying obtuse?



I notice you keep dodging these questions.

Why not not bow out now and quit posting here because all you are is comedic fodder (and once you reach that status, you will never be anything else here)

 

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