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JaconKin  1 star
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Eternal_Midnight posted:

Is all the GW2 PvP in canned maps with canned skills? They seem to be touting this 'you can jump in and out of maps at any time' business for their PvP, like it's some kind of innovation.

Where is all the PvP that ISN'T predictable?



Currently the only PVP that has been shown is what is called their competitive form of PVP, that has smaller maps and the like.

I think what you are referring to is WvWvW PVP, that hasn't been shown as of right now. This the from of PVP that will see you have 3 servers battling it out over a huge map during a two week period. This is were you can jump in and jump out of the PVP, level in the PVP and even get loot drops and the like while you are playing.

There is nothing predictable about a battle that will last for two weeks were the entire server population could join in the battle against two other servers.

Here goes a leaked map of the WvWvW map, about 1/3 of the maps actual size.



For scale purposes, it has been reported that Castle Baily in the Middle is about the same scale as Ironforge.

The one aspect about PVP that has me excited and might actually have me playing and enjoying PVP. It is based purely on skill. There is no special PVP gear nor X stat that makes the PVP game imbalanced. All players are equal in this regard, so it boils down to what PVP should be about, skill and strategy. Not, well I need X stat to actually be able to play and have a fighting chance.

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
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JaconKin posted:

Here goes a leaked map of the WvWvW map, about 1/3 of the maps actual size.



For scale purposes, it has been reported that Castle Baily in the Middle is about the same scale as Ironforge.

LFG Fins2, PST.

 

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JaredKorry  2 stars
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Quazimortal posted:

GutterSludge posted:

Quasi,

Opinions do not require facts, which is why they are opinions.

Jacon's opinion is that the game looks stellar.

Korrigan's is that he will reserve judgement until he can play the game.


Neither of these require "facts" to be legitimate.

Yes, Jacon has provided examples of why he holds the opinion he does, but it is still just an opinion, and no more (or less) valid than Korrigan's.



I'm not talking about Jacon's opinion, I'm talking about how he is describing how ArenaNet is developing Guild Wars 2 with an entirely different model from what all the other MMOs are using. This fact means that Korrigan's opinion that a gaming veteran shouldn't get hyped over Guild Wars 2 is worthless because none of the other MMOs tried to change the model. This makes Korrigan's veiled insults quite laughable.



LOL "changing the model" or words to that effect are the favorite buzzword for for new games. I remember how War was being hailed as the "Next Big Thing" because it was going to "revolutionize", aka change the model of, how PVP was done.

I also remember how both Aion and Rift were both hailed as the "Next Big Thing" because of how they were going to revolutionize", aka change the model of questing, combat, world events, (fill in the blank).

I also think that, if the positions were reversed and it was Korrigan singing the praises of "The Next Big Thing", you would be all over making fun of him and taunting him for it.
GutterSludge  4 stars
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Nice job jumping in and getting it completely wrong Jared.

 

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JaredKorry  2 stars
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Thank you.
Quazimortal  4 stars
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GutterSludge posted:

Nice job jumping in and getting it completely wrong Jared.



It's what he is good at.

 

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JaredKorry  2 stars
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/still waiting for either one of you to explain *why* you think I'm wrong.

Oh wait, this is teh VN boardz and it is Gutter and Quasi posting. Tossing out vague, random insults and the ole "I'm right, you're wrong" tactic is your specialty.

Now, if either of you think you are capabale of having an adult conversation and explaining *why* you think I'm wrong, I'll be happy to chat with you. Until then, I'll be over ----->here, yawning with boredom.
GutterSludge  4 stars
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JaredKorry posted:

I also think that, if the positions were reversed and it was Korrigan singing the praises of "The Next Big Thing", you would be all over making fun of him and taunting him for it.



Wrong, period.

Any other questions?

 

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GutterSludge posted:

JaredKorry posted:

I also think that, if the positions were reversed and it was Korrigan singing the praises of "The Next Big Thing", you would be all over making fun of him and taunting him for it.



Wrong, period.

Any other questions?



Yeah, I have another question. Do you honestly expect me to believe that Quasi, the same Quasi that is constantly dogging Korrigan, would not be mocking and taunting him if Korrigan were the one proclaiming an upcoming game as the "next big thing"?
GutterSludge  4 stars
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It has nothing to do with who, it has to do with what.

I happen to agree with Korrigan on the matter discussed in this thread, which is why I defended his opinion when Quasi posted what he did.... (which you later quoted).

As a matter of fact there are many subjects that Korrigan and I agree on (especially with older MMO's, such as UO, and AC)..but when we disagree, we do so from opposite ends of the universe.


This is your problem. You are unable to weigh statements in each individual thread as you read them, (and most of the time I doubt you even read them fully) and come to an independent conclusion for yourself.

You look at the name, and already have your mind made up.


Perhaps you will grow out of this one day....perhaps.

 

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